Reader comments: Passion of the Christ, The
JOY WALLIN | Jan. 28, 2008
I am a christian and i lke the film this movie shows what
happen 2,000 years ago. And touches peoples lives of what
jesus did for the whole world. And i hope that you get
something out of it like what i did jim caviezel did a great
job as playing the son of god and mel gibson did a great job
of directing/producing. I cried when the whiping screen came
and seeing all those strips on his back.In my mind i wanted
to beat up the roman soliders for doing that but. But the
whipping and crucixtion that what happen read the gospels if
you dont understand it. Jesus did for you so you wont go to
hell. For god so loved the world that he gave his one and
only Son,that whoever believes in him shall not perish but
have eternal life John 3:16. I believe that Jesus is my
savior of the world and he loves us very much.Seeing the
crucixtion and the rusurrection it's the real thing. And
remember the very importants things that happen 2,000 years
ago. That a man name Jesus Of Nazareth did wonderful things
not to be weird but dieing for us and raising for the dead
that ia amazing savior that i ever know and loved for my
whole life. And we all should say thank that you died for my
sins and getting raised from the dead the is Easter is all
about.
THOMAS BARRY | Jan. 20, 2005
Pardon me if this movie revolted you. Perhaps you have a
very weak tummy. But you must know, or refuse to believe,
that the movie was made by Mel Gibson,to show the world
what God's Son had to endure for sinful mankind. You might
not believe that God sent his Son into the world to Redeem
us all, but it is a fact even you cannot deny. It was a
movie needed to be made, and Mel Gibson had the guts to
make it. I salute him for his love of God and love of the
truth. If this movie was nothing more that blood and gore,
you are to be pittied. I will pray for you all, that God
might open your eyes to see the truth. Yes Jesus Christ
did die for us all, and it wasn't a pretty sight. But it
did happen, He did die for us on a Cross to save us from
Hell. May God have mercy on your souls.
HEIDI | Jan. 13, 2005
I'm LDS and recently saw the film on DVD. "It is as it
was." as the pope said when he saw it. The film follows
the accounts in the Gospels very well. Mel Gibson did,
however, take artistic license for a few things and it's
wonderful. This is a beautiful film. All the details
described in the 4 Gospels about the Garden of Gethsemane
was in the film. I don't mean to contend about doctrine
with other reviewers, but Christ suffered for our sins in
Gethsemane and again on the cross, in addition to the
physical torture. The suffering and methods of torture I
was not familiar with. This film helped me to know more
of what He went through. When I ponder what the Saviour
did for me, I can see it now and appreciate it more. It
was beautiful how the film portrayed His relationship with
His mother, Mary, and the other women in His life.
I don't have a t.v. in my home, so I am more sensitive
to violence than most people may be who watch a lot of
t.v. The violence in this film was not so much that I had
to look away. Having read the Passion, Atonement, and
Resurrection sections of the New Testament many times and
learning about it in Church, nothing shocked me--it was
familiar to me. I was a witness to it. I was helpless.
I could not come to his aid as Simon did. I could not mop
up the blood as Mary did. I love Jesus and this is the
greatest film ever made. God bless Mel Gibson! I don't
look down on those who won't see the film. It's a
personal choice. I'm glad that I had the privilege to
see "The Passion of the Christ."
SPACEMAN | Sept. 2, 2004
What a shame the Deseret News keeps Jeff Vice on as their
movie critic. His
pseudo arrogance and film-snobbery is so blatant. His
review of The Passion
of the Christ had nothing negative except for the use of
slow motion, some
odd flashbacks and the abundance of blood. Yet, this is the
same movie critic
that had nothing but glowing remarks for the first two Kill
Bill bloodfests.
What a shame.
What a shame that Jeff Vice's politics would overshadow a
near perfect film.
He gave it only 2 stars. TWO. He didn't like the flashbacks
and the blood. Yet
he easily gives Kill Bill 4 stars...full of more blood than
was found in The
Passion of the Christ.
What a shame.
I was brought to tears. This movie is brutally honest. It
is the way things
happened, along with a few liberties taken by Mel Gibson.
Yes, the part of
Satan is played by a woman but we don't see Satan as either
male or female in
the movie...rather an adrogynous type character. The
flashbacks are there to
add some humanity to the story. I found them intruiguing
and thought they
added to the picture.
What a shame.
Shame on you Jeff Vice. This movie is a masterpiece. To not
like this movie, to
not be stirred, to not come out emotionally drained, one
must not have a
soul. What a beautiful, stirring story, masterfully told
and filmed. This is a
movie I will want all my children to see as they grow
older. This is a film that
should be shown in high schools, in churches, and yes, even
in LDS seminary
classes. This is the heart wrenching story of Jesus'
conviction and crucifixion
and finally shown how things actually happened.
Thank you to Mel Gibson.
Shame on you Jeff Vice.
BARB MILLER | Aug. 11, 2004
Unfortunately, there are a lot of things to believe
in...in this world today and people are entitled to thier
own belief system. However, I have a problem with people
who have not even read the Bible, criticizing the Passion
of Christ. If you disbelieve the Bible, this is not the
movie for you. If you believe the Bible, if you understand
the Bible...you will not have to be told what a
masterpiece this movie is. Regarding the violence and
brutality of the movie, if you have studied ANY history at
all, Biblicly or just historically, you would read over
and over again of the BARBARIC ways of the peope of that
time. I absolutely believe that the horrific brutality
inflicted on Jesus was a very accurate account of His last
hours.
About the presence of satan in the movie. Don't you know
who satan is??? Satan can be anything or anyone he desires
and for whatever purpose so he chooses. If you think
satan was not active in the crucifiction of Jesus, you
have not even come close to grasping the concept of any of
the Bible. Who do you think tempted Judas? Who do you
think slithered "to and fro" tempting all who would follow
him against Jesus?
Believe what you will...This was the greatest movie to
date about Jesus. As they say..."for some...no
explaination is necessary, and for some, no explaination
will ever suffice!"
STEPHANIE | May. 23, 2004
This movie is POWERFUL, and I truly feel that this will be
the movie of all times. It has opened my eyes to how much
The Lord Love us.
RICHARD MATHEW | May. 2, 2004
i read all other anti-"passion reviews.i just want to tell
that this film shows the passion of christ as it was.well
the truth might be sometimes gruesome and brutal,but that
is what happened to jesus 2000 years ago and maybe even
more brutal than what is shown in the film.we can't shy
away from the fact that jesus suffered it all.i cant digest
watching some previous movies on jesus where they show no
signs of whipping or blood.what is the meaning in that?jesus
suffered for the sins of man,and that is the truth.
the film shows jesus hanging on the cross for few
minutes,but in reality jesus was hanging on the cross from
9 a.m to 3 p.m,and might have bled to death or suffocated.
well no film can truly capture the real brutality meted out
on jesus.
BLAINE | Apr. 25, 2004
Movie was well done, with a beautiful score and superb
acting and direction... An instant classic.
The anti-Semetic argument is nonsense, unless you
believe that "Amistad" and "Roots" were anti-White,
and "Schindler's List" and "Life is Beautiful" were anti-
German.
Speaking of Schindler's List, I am surprised more
people have not compared the two films. Jeff Vice is way
off-base, calling the film "graphically, gruesomely
violent." He continues to repine, "This biblical drama is
so violent, so extremely bloody, it's anyone's guess how
it managed to skirt by with just an R rating, instead of
the NC-17."
First of all, the overwhelming majority of the violence
in "The Passion" is merely implied--the times you SEE
flesh being torn, etc, can be counted on one hand.
Comparing that to films like "Kill Bill," "Natural Born
Killers," and even "Braveheart", then this is one of the
more visually TAME R-rated movies (of those that have an
inherently "violent" subject matter). The difference is
the violence in this film is not done with the same
disregard for human life exhibited by most films of our
day. The pain and suffering here is palpable--as it was
in "Schindler's List," but not gratuitously violent. In
fact, to even use the term "violence" does an injustice to
the whole tone of the film, and wrongfully categorizes it
with the myriad of graphically and gratuitously violent
movies that have become a staple in today's movie diet.
With that said, it is INTENSE. If you can't
handle "Schindler's List," you won't be able to
handle "The Passion of the Christ." They are both about
horrendous acts of cruelty and are depicted in a way that
helps their audiences have a greater appreciation for
sacrifices and sufferings that one cannot possibly fully
comprehend without visual assistance. They are also both
about individuals who overcame unimaginable odds to
provide salvation for an oppressed people (Jews in the
first case, Jew and Gentile in the second).
(Side note: Those LDS members who complain that this
film's content is somehow less important than the
occurences of Gethsemane need to reexamine the doctrine.
They were equally important, and one without the other
would have been void. I find no problem discussing one
aspect of the atonement at a time. In fact, an attempt to
depict the sufferings of Gethsemane would have fallen way
shorter than this film did. I applaud Mel Gibson for
helping us to understand that which we are able to
understand--if we are willing to watch.)
If you are honestly too overwrought by visually intense
films, I applaud your sensitivity. Don't see this film.
For the rest of us, who have been regretably desensitized,
there is definitely no greater way to gain a thorough
understanding of Christ's pain and suffering than to
witness "The Passion". What is disgusting to me is the
approach that many people--including Jeff Vice--are taking
to try to undermine this film. If you don't like the
message, just say so. But don't scream about violence out
of one side of your mouth, while downplaying bloodthirsty
films like "Kill Bill" as having a "peculiar brand of
ultraviolence" and giving them 3 1/2 stars. If you CAN
handle the intensity, you should see this film.
SAM | Apr. 13, 2004
People need to understand something. The term "The Passion"
refers to the last day of Christ's mortal life. You would
not go to "The Passion" expecting to see the resurrection
any more than you would go to, for instance, Fellowship of
the Ring to see the destruction of the One Ring. I know, not
at all the same stories, but what I am saying is that the
FOCUS is on "The Passion of the Christ"...the last day of
his mortal ministry. And they portrayed it perfectly.
This movie HAS increased my spirituality greatly, I have a
renewed determination to study the gospel. I also, for once
in my life, did not find any problems focusing on the Savior
during the Sacrament this past Sunday. I'd always *heard*
and *read* about the tremendous suffering Christ went
through, but all of the movies I'd seen didn't depict this
at all...I'd hate to sound blasphemous, but in retrospect,
in a way I guess subconsciously I had thought well He did a
lot for me, I guess...but every video about Christ I'd seen
ignored any aspect of suffering, so visually (which is the
way I learn best) he didn't appear to go through much, and
look at all the glory...doesn't seem too tough. Now, I
actually have some small sense of the suffering He went
through, and that has made me appreciate the Savior far more
than I did just a week ago. I don't have to *convince*
myself that Christ suffered for me because the Scriptures
say so; I *know* He suffered for me and all the world. It
has made the Scriptures come alive. It brought MEANING to
Christ suffering for us. It made me realize just how much He
went through, and how much we need Him. Is the suffering the
focus of my faith? No. But it brought to life scripture that
I had never even remotely comprehended before. Sure, I'd
read it, but I couldn't picture it...and picturing things is
how I learn best.
Will it be this way for everyone? Probably not. My best
advice is to pray and seek personal revelation as to whether
or not you should see this film. That's the path I went
down, and I got the answer that I had better, and I am glad
I did. The Lord knows what you need to come to him. Remember
the most fundamental truths of the Gospel? Jesus Christ at
the center, and personal revelation. Don't let the rating be
your sole determination. "Finding Nemo" was a good movie,
but it didn't change me spiritually like "The Passion" has.
Find out for yourself whether you should see the film or
not, and don't question it if the Lord tells you to go and
see it!
Sam
ROGER | Apr. 12, 2004
"Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me,
thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen,
and yet have believed."
--John 20:27-29
ASHLEY | Apr. 8, 2004
This is an all in all wonderful movie. It doesn't matter
what your religon. It happened weither you like it or
not. I admit it is hard to concentrate with all the blood,
gore, and guts but it is one of those things that hits you
hard a few days later!!!
LINDA MOLOSKY | Apr. 2, 2004
I went into the theatre not really knowing what to expect.
Would the film depict a Catholic point of view? Would it be
to Hollywood(ish)? My husband and I was surprised by the
impact this movie had on us. We are LDS and found this
portrayal of Christ's last hours as close to scripture as
anyone or thing could replay. I have read the gospels over
and over as well as a historical book series written by
Gerald Lund about the life of Christ and wonder if Mel
Gibson has read the same novel series. Whether we want to
admit to it or even think about it, Christ was treated with
extreme cruelty, the Pharisees, the Sanhedrin and Sadducces
are the ones whom the blame should be put on because they
had the most to lose with every day Jesus became more and
more popular. Yes they were Jews but so were all the
disciples. This was the Romans way of life to torture,
scourge and to complete the orders they were given,
otherwise they may end up on the other end of the whip.
This movie gave me a visible respect, understanding and
devotion that I have ever felt before in my life. I have
always be devoted to Christ my entire life, but now I feel
totally and utterly committed to live up to the
expectations my Heavenly Father expects from me. Even if
it took a movie so be it.
SANDRA | Apr. 1, 2004
I'm a mormon and this morning my friend and I went to see
that movie!
We went out feeling really bad.We thought this movie would
have been uplifting but it was completly the opposite.
Satan, a woman ????? And what was the purpose of his
presence in the movie? There's nothing good to get out of
this movie! Don't waste your time,and if you want to see
it anyway get ready for 2 hours of bloody experience and
free violence!!!
Only a last question : What's the purpose of this movie?
STEPHEN | Mar. 29, 2004
I am not a religious person. But I have extensively studied
the phenomenon of human evil from a psychosocial perspective
as an academic exercise. And I must say this film wrapped
together the mythological motifs of love and hatred of love
in a way that was brilliant. This film shook me as has no
other film I have ever seen.
Jesus dying for our sins... yes, he did. As have hundreds
of millions of others throughout our savage human history.
They were all the recipients of the sum of our evil at the
moment of their violent deaths.
And perhaps that is the message that Gibson was trying to
deliver amid the characters enthralled by their own
violence, others with parading love that couldn't quite
stand the test, and still other characters whose genuine
goodness was brought forth from the shadows when confronted
with such evil and hatred.
This movie, and the story of Jesus, was about more than just
one man's suffering. Violence at the hands of those seduced
by The Father of Lies has been endured hundreds of millions
of times, not just once. What makes the story of Jesus
different is that he was fully aware and chose suffering
nonetheless.
And the movie's brilliant portrayal of Satan... the soft
seduction of what are initially mild lies and justifications
and laziness offered up by a character whose true ugliness
is hidden away for the initial seduction, but is revealed
through the savagery of the humans in the story who had
already chosen to believe its (and I purposely use the term
"it") lies. Satan, offering to Jesus the option of turning
away from the pain of the work of love, offered at the time
of death, the event that we fear above all others... and
Jesus choses the road less travelled... and rarely, rarely
understood. Satan stalks Mary from across the road as Mary
is beset by her own question as to what degree of pain she
can endure for love's sake. Failing in her courage at the
most critical time in her life when the flesh-of-her-flesh
needs comfort at his most critical of hours during his most
lonely of journeys, she remembers the love of a mother for
her young son, is buoyed by it, and goes to him even though
she must endure the tremendous pain of watching him die (out
of love, she does not turn away from her own task). How
many times in history has this been played out? The story
of Jesus chosing his suffering out of love instead of
avoiding it was his most valuable gift.
The film depicted the chaos and entropy and infliction of
pain by those who'd given themselves over to selfishness and
greed and cowardice. This film powerfully depicts their
need to destroy the thing of beauty that shows them for
their own chosen ugliness, and the film demonstrated the
desperate savagery? of which so many of us are ultimately
capable? with which they attacked that which reflected back
to them their own decay. Evil is about avoiding the pain of
the reflected image.
How could anyone miss this message of the polar opposites
embedded in the film? The savagery, destruction, and pain
that the laziness of evil inflicts contraposed against the
beauty of the work of authentic love and the pain that must
be suffered because of it?
Quite to the contrary of what so many have said, this is not
a violent film. This is a film about suffering, and Mel
Gibson wanted the viewer to experience just a fraction of
that suffering as it would have looked like in the Rwandas,
Bosnias, Cambodias, Germanys, etc., of our time... the roots
of which surreptitiously grow in the small everyday events
we experience and cause to be experienced, however seductive
they [initially] seem in their [not-so] unimportance
("Remember when they condemn you, that they condemned me
first.").
The Passion of the Christ is a mirror into which we are
still peering. It is a shame so many stopped at the
packaging and missed the powerful message.
JUAN MARTINEZ | Mar. 20, 2004
Although I am a devout Catholic, I thought that this movie
was a waste of time. It was nothing but torture and
brutality from start to finish. What little story line
there is to this film, everyone already knows. Maybe I
missed the point, but why would anyone want to watch such
bloodshed, done in such a realistic manner? Unless you're
bloodthirsty, stay away. I thought it was horrible.
CHRISTY WELLS | Mar. 13, 2004
An excellent film about the be trail of our Savior Jesus
the Christ and a good reminder of what he was destined to
go through on our behalf. (well those who know,believe and
accept that he is Jesus the Christ, which is IS).
I did find myself turning my head away for a lot of the
brutality and I did feel that was somewhat over kill, but
others have reminded me that,back then they actually were
merciless and such brutality would have been common place.
(Thinking about it, just their general public found joy in
stoning people to death with their own hands.)
I completely agreed with the way they portrayed satan and
the timing. I give them 4 stars for being able to create
that! I had forgotten what Christ had went through when
the Fathers spirit left him and he alone went through the
depths of hell taking on the sins of the world and for
some reason I had forgotten some what at the extent that
Christ was left alone with the enemy.
Anyway, I cried the whole time but in the end I found
myself more dedicated and grateful to my Savior having
been reminded of what he went through for us.
MANZA | Mar. 9, 2004
Beautiful movie. Very Powerful. The movie is called ?The
Passion?... not ?The Resurrection?,
not ?The Garden Of Gethsemane?, which are all very
important aspects of Christ?s life as are his
birth, teaching, healing, and so forth.
?The Passion as it is traditionally known (from the Latin
for sufferings) is the story of the last
events of Christ's earthly life. Episodes and details are
drawn from the four separate accounts of
Gospels. But almost all versions begin with his triumphant
entry into Jerusalem a few days before
Passover where he is hailed as the messiah by the people
and conclude with his Crucifixion where
he is mocked and despised a few days later. Events and men
move with ruthless speed, and an
inexorable tragic necessity seems to be at work.?
The Passion focuses on the human vulnerability and
suffering of Jesus. The touching scenes of
Mary comforting her son as a boy and as a man, her having
him wash before dinner and him
splashing water on her really drove home the human side of
Jesus. Actually, I expected this
movie to be even more graphic than it was because of what
I?ve read and from what I feel Christ
probably went through for mankind.
"I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that
plucked off the hair: I hid not my face
from shame and spitting." Isaiah 50:6
I wanted to take my friend?s daughter and my niece hoping
that maybe if they ?see? what Christ
went through for us, they would want to actually ?read?
about it in the scriptures. Their response
was that it was advertised as too bloody and gory - this
from 2 girls who have watched Freddy
and Jason at the movies for years. As for the ?R? rating,
I?ve seen worse PG-13 movies but in a
way it is good that it is rated an ?R? because maybe some
of the people who normally wouldn?t
see anything less may go and see this movie and it may be a
way for God to reach them. After all,
Jesus preached the Gospel to some pretty radical people.
Did the Jews kill Jesus? No... "No man taketh it from me,
but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down,
and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I
received of my Father." John 10:18
JOY CARTER | Mar. 8, 2004
I really loved the movie. It followed the Scriptures
perfectly. It was not done out of contexted. It was not
too Hollywoody. Yes it is graphic. But what you don't
understand apparently is that this really did happen.
Graphic or not I really think that when it comes to the
truth people don't want to believe it really happened just
like that. Jesus Christ had to go through this part in his
life for us. He did it because he loves us. He had the
power to stop it anytime but He knew that he had to do this
so that we can live with our Heavenly Father again. {the
resurrection}
I think if everyone would take a moment and really try to
comprehend what He went though for us they would be more
appreciative to Him and of Him.
Bottom line is sometimes the truth hurts and is hard to
except.
I do think that he lengthened the beating to much but that
the way he wanted it. To get the point across.
I would have like him to spend more time on the Resurrected
part. It makes you want to be more like Him and be Happy!!!
CAROLINE | Mar. 7, 2004
I am amazed that any lds person after watching this movie
would be moved to anything but disgust that someone such
as Mel Gibson, who cannot fathom from his uninspired
vision of what Christ did or did not suffer, could seek to
portray such on film! We all should already be clear on
the fact that the suffering of Christ is not the highlight
of the Atonement! The Garden of Gethsemane is! Further,
focusing on the gore, graphic detail of the crucixtion is
NOT why Christ suffered for us! So, if this movie doesnt
bring us closer to what THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST teaches
us about that time in his life, then it's not a necessary
or accurate depiction at all. I did give Mel a star for
effort though.
KAT | Mar. 7, 2004
In response to Jeff yes someone can suffer like that and
he did suffer far worse than what the movie protrays, Mel
Gibson was only able to show 2 dimential side, but how can
one show the instense pain that Christ suffered, one can
only imagine the pain as the he was nailed to the cross.
I'm thankful for the burning testitmony I have and for the
film that allowed a brief glimps into pain and suffering
of Christ
MIKE | Mar. 6, 2004
For my wife and I this was a one time viewing. My wife had
heard it would be a religious experience. I went out of
curiousity. At the end of the film we were in shock. Is
there a story? Yes, however the violence and gore was not
needed. My wife and I feel we are pretty hardened with
violence and gore in film. I enjoyed Pulp Fiction, The
Unforgiven and Kill Bill. This film surpasses anything
we've seen and we felt it did not need to be made.
LI ANN LEE | Mar. 6, 2004
This is a must for anyone who has any doubts about the
atonement of Christ. I have seen The Testament and many
other movies throughout my life, but none touched me the
way that this one did. Until I saw that movie, I did not
fully appreciate what my Lord and Savior did for me. It
has turned my life into something that is more
meaningful. I want to live for HIM.
J SANDERS | Mar. 1, 2004
I am sorry to disagree with parts of your review of the
Passion of the Christ. As a woman, I have been surprised
to see that the men who I know have seen this movie are
struggling more with the graphic violence than the women
are. It?s interesting to me. To me, this movie was
inspired. It is so difficult to watch the violence, but
it was more difficult for Mary to watch her son suffer
such ?R? rated violence which was inflicted upon him. She
was willing to watch and ?suffer? with him, and so was I.
I am grateful to Mel Gibson that he had enough faith in
the audience that they would be strong enough to bear the
suffering also. I believe that if you will think it
through, witnessing this level of suffering is important
for many people like me, who could not fathom, believe or
want to think about what Jesus Christ suffered for all of
us. I believe it?s a very personal message, and meant to
be interpreted differently for every individual depending
upon his own belief and understanding of this almost
unbelievable, but very real event.
Just wanted to give you my point of view.
Sincerely,
J Sanders
DAVE | Mar. 1, 2004
I do not agree with Jane's question. I am a devout member
of the LDS church and let me say right off that I DON'T
see 'R' rated movies. In fact the last 11 years I've only
seen 2 other 'R' rated movies (Shindler's List and
Amistad). I'm very against 'R' rated movies in just about
every waybut after MUCH study and reading articles from
prominant LDS people, including Brother Millet who is a
professor of religious studies at BYU and Keith Merrill
who directed "The Legacy" and "The Testaments" and both
gave it raving reviews and made comments such as "everyone
needs to see this movie." So I saw this movie and I loved
it! It was spiritually uplifting Jane, it was powerful
Jane, it was everything you said it wasn't and more!
Before you judge a movie, (that Ironically you gave 3
stars), you need to see it before you judge it. Yes it is
violent but there's a difference between gratuitous
violence and appropriate violence. This movie was a
moving experience and I did feel the spirit of the movie
because I went in with the RIGHT ATTITUDE. This movie has
wanted me to learn more about that time of life and to
study even more about the Savior. Kudos to Mr. Gibson and
his brilliant movie!
LESLIE | Mar. 1, 2004
I saw The Passion tonight and I found it a very good
movie. I took my older children and it made them ask
questions that I was happy to have them ask. It taught
them if only just a small glance, the sacrifice that was
made for them. The words that struck me most is "remember
when they condemn you, that they condemnd me first." I
believe what it did for me is bring a story to life that I
have known and heard all my life but simply could not
comprehend. It was done for the most part tastefully. My
only dislike was the wierd way they had Satan in it. It
confused me a bit.
No, no human could endure what he endured, but he was not
human, he was Christ. And he said many times, we did not
dertermine his death, he died when his Father decided.
The R rating was for the brutality. History is brutal. The
bible if rated would be rated R, and so would the Book of
Mormon.
STEVE | Feb. 28, 2004
Don't let the R rating for this film scare you away from
seeing it. The LDS church doesn't rate films. That's the
responsibility of the motion picture folks. Just as there
are some PG13 films we should not watch, there are some R
rated ones that we should. This is one such film, period.
You will leave the theater a different person...thanks
Mel!!
TRIANGLE MAN | Feb. 28, 2004
jane, i went to this movie because i have agency to do as i
wish ... orgill, once again, when i read your tyrade I had
to go... Movies entertain, movies tell stories, movies give
us details of events, movies help us with history, movies
make us laugh , movies make us cry .... movies are for
entertainment ... the passion of christ, read the title,
passion. the film is about the savior of our world, his
passion to fulfill his atoning sacrifice for me ... the
evil was in this film because, and i've taken the time to
study this period, it was an evil, violent time in
history. think about the story .... think about the
history ... if you were an adulterer, you got stoned to
death by your community ... there arent enough rocks in the
rocky mountains for all of that that goes on ... we live in
a society that has learned from our past ... we still kill
our transgressors, rightly accused, some wrongly ... so, at
the point of the mountain when we electricute someone, it
is no less making a point as a man, taking his cross to
bear , and bearing the weight of the world ... i expected a
heavy movie .. i expected a heavy topic ... i'm glad
someone would make a film that would show us why mary
wept ... why there was so much upheaval ... passion ....
passion .... passion .... if anyone writing these things
were as passionate as christ was , they would understand
his desire to take the evil from the world ... thumbs
up ... mature audiences ...
KIRSTIN MOSELEY | Feb. 28, 2004
This movie was completely acurate and truthful. As far as
the racial slurs, and the so-called "vulgar gesture", and
PROFANITY that Jeff Vice said was in there, I NEVER saw
that at all. Yes, it IS bloody and hard to watch..... and I
would venture to guess that what Christ SUFFERED for US,
was 100 times worse than what was depicted. TRUTH usually
is hard to watch AND listen to. I respect Mel Gibson for
making this movie. He is telling a story that NEEDS to be
heard.... AGAIN. And people need to listen. God bless him
for his hard work. And, by the way, I am LDS, and have been
for all of my 35 years. I think this movie is soul shaking
and nessesary to get people thinking and RESPECTING what
was done for all of US. It was not meant to be a "pretty"
movie, nor, was it meant to be easy to sit through. Why
should we candy-coat what happened????? If more people saw
what was REALLY done to Christ, maybe more people would
start to live the lives we are meant to. This wonderful,
loving man, SON OF GOD, suffered all of this for US. We
have a responsibility to relay the story EXACTLY as it
happened. Watering it down, so as to be palitable for those
who are "uncomfortable" with it, is a down-right disrespect
to Christ Himself. No one made it "comfortable" for him to
go through, so, why should we be any different??? For
those of you who asked if we felt good walking out of the
theater, after seeing this, MY answer to you is a
resounding YES. I felt grateful, HUMBLED and inspired to
live better as to not offend His purpose and suffering. It
snapped me back into realizing what is truly important on
this earth. For those who want to stay away from this movie
because of the "counsel" to not see rated "R" films........
that is YOUR right... but, I would also ask that you
realize, if you voice any opinion on this film, good OR
bad, you are speaking from ZERO knowledge, as you do not
have the first hand account of what the movie IS.Those of
us who sat there, crying and feeling helpless to save our
Lord, know what the films message is. Again, Christ was
not spared in any form from suffering.... let us all
remember that. If SITTING in a theater, and merely WATCHING
the events unfold is all we are to "suffer" , then, I think
we should do that, out of respect for our Sweet Savior who
OBVIOUSLY did MUCH MORE for us. No, I would not take my 10,
8, and 4 year old to see this. They are way too young to
fully comprehend the meaning of it all on this level. I
will, however, take my almost 17 and 14 year old sons. God
bless us all, and remember, it is ok to have different
opinions from others. let's all respect that and keep it
KIND. FOLLOW JESUS' EXAMPLE OF LOVE AND PATIENCE.
TANIS JOHNSON | Feb. 27, 2004
"The Passion of Christ" is one of the best movies I have
ever seen. Rest assured that I WILL buy it when it comes
out for sale. I do not believe that the film deserved and
R rating at all, not to mention NC-17. I give Mel Gibson
nothing but critical acclaim and praise for this marvelous
work! I do not have children, but if I did, I would not
hesitate to allow them to see this film. I think that "The
Passion of Christ" will do nothing but intensify a person's
love and understanding of Jesus Christ. The gore and
violence was not the worst I've seen, and it did not bother
me or keep me from concentrating on the message of the
film. I loved it, and I give my highest rating!
JOHN | Feb. 27, 2004
Exploitation of gore. No victory in ressurrection. Another
sensationalims to shock people. Solider in IRaq have seen
this or worse or been victims of atrocities themselves.
Nothing uplifting by showing violence and the worse of
human ability to do evil and commit unspeakable acts of
torture on other human beings. In this day and age, we
need movies that build and uplift not just re-estate what
we already know about rage, gore, blood, hatred, evil and
all that bad things that people do nowadays to each other.
It's to be decided whether this movie is inspired of God
or just Satan's other trick to mock and negatively depict
the Savior. I would be careful. If you come out of the
movie feeling bad or down, it's not a movie inspired of
God. In these last days, The Devil rules, distorts and
confuses. If you like gore and violence and seeing the
worse in people, this is your cup of tea. But nothing
surprises me anymore. As for the jews, well, they run the
world anyway but I think they were very negatively
depicted but it's hard to say what they were like at the
time. It's too bad that for so many, this is the only idea
they even have about Jesus.
JANE HOWARD | Feb. 26, 2004
I haven't seen this movie, nor do I plan to, however, I
would like to ask a question to all the "devout" church
members who have seen the movie and posted an opinion: why
are you going against the counsel of church leaders and
going to see an R-rated movie in the first place? Is this
movie wholesome? Spiritually uplifting? No? Then why did
you go see it?
ALISA F. ANGLESEY | Feb. 26, 2004
I am a Christian/LDS filmmaker. Certainly, there has been
enough said for this film on both sides of the critic?s
bar that my two cents may merely appear as the widow?s
mite compared to so many other offerings. But I offer it
nonetheless.
I left the theater feeling absolutely drained of
strength. The paper map I had entered the theater with,
and subsequently held in my hand during the screening, was
twisted and crushed into a shapeless ball, frayed at every
edge that could be accessed by a fingernail and moist with
cold perspiration.
I was surprisingly dry-eyed for most of the film. I had
heard stories of people leaving the theater still
dissolving into fits of sobs. It occurred to me that for
the non-Christ-minded person ? an individual unfamiliar
with the gospel and life of our Lord, and consequently
unfamiliar with the tender feelings of the Spirit as He
speaks the truth of this divine sacrifice to our soul ?
this film would probably shock them in foreign ways. But
I found myself following this portrayal of the last few
hours of Jesus Christ on earth with steady familiarity.
Gibson embraces his artistic license in the art of
storytelling. His Catholic garters show through
substantially with his portrayals of Satan. As a matter
of fact, the portrayal of evil in the film is really the
only true weakness I felt. It?s always difficult to
portray ethereal evil with any visual justice and I
suppose he did as well as anyone could.
The true evil that bludgeons every film-goer over the head
with relentless onslaught is the incomprehensible cruelty
of Man toward his fellow man. There are scenes in this
film that defy the imagination of the most intolerable
cruelty. It is horror at its worst... because it?s all
true: Roman guards (who make Dr. Hannibal Lecter look like
a saint) perform grizzly, unbridled torture upon the body
of Christ before our very eyes. The film is filled from
corner to corner with endless blood, pain, and unbearable
suffering. It is not for the faint-hearted.
On the other hand, it remains true to the divine identity
of Christ. There were several beautifully executed
flashbacks in the film, as characters remember their
interactions with Jesus and as Christ remembers his own
life. The relationship Gibson develops between Jesus and
his mother, Mary (magnificently played by Maia
Morgenstern), is truly tender: the best I?ve ever seen.
Jim Caviezel?s portrayal of Christ is dignified and
worshipful. Truly, he helps us see the Son of God clothed
in human frailty; His divine spirit straining against the
powers of mortality.
In fact, it is my belief that this ?extreme reality?
version of our Lord?s sacrifice is portrayed with
worshipful and reverent intent. It is reverent, in my
opinion, to respect the depth of our Savior?s sacrifice by
not glossing over the finer points of history that offend
our modern-day sophisticated sensitivities. By saying so,
I am NOT recommending this film for children,
whose ?sensitivities? are still very tender and
unrefined... and should remain so.
Gibson and Caviezel were true to the end to the divine
essence of our Savior. The words and actions of Christ
were congruent with scriptural accounts (allowing leniency
for translation from Aramaic spoken throughout the film).
The only exception to this was a wonderful scene between
an adult pre-mission Jesus and his mother. It added
greatly to develop both characters and served to increase
our innate, very human connection with them. It was one
of my favorite scenes in the film.
Truly, every person who views this film will walk out with
a different experience unique to their own perspective.
It?s the kind of film that returns to you whatever you
take in to it. That would seem to me to be the makings of
a work of art and in this case, a work of ?adoration.?
MARK REESE | Feb. 26, 2004
I am a devout, faithful Mormon and went into the movie
theater last night somewhat concerned about what I might
experience as I watched Mel Gibson?s movie, The Passion of
the Christ. I had followed the news these last several
months and read and heard about all of the detailed
?gruesomeness? that this movie would portray of the last
suffering hours of Jesus Christ?s life. Yes, I did force
myself to shut my eyes during many of the scenes where
Christ was scourged at the hands of the Romans and then
further tortured as he carried the cross to Calvary. All in
all, the movie was well made with the exception of a few
things such as the apparel of the Jewish Sanhedrin ? it was
a little too extravagant or flashy for that period so to me
it cheapened a little the ?authentic look? for the movie.
Seeing through all of the graphic violence in this movie
that depicts Christ?s suffering, I was able to walk out of
this show having a greater knowledge and appreciation of
Christ?s tremendous sacrifice for all of mankind.
B | Feb. 26, 2004
This movie is so Powerful. It is going to make people talk.
It is a phenominal emotional roller coaster with no stop on
sight. I saw this movie last night and am still reeling
over it. Yes it is very graphic. But you can not just imply
what is going on that is where the power comes from. The
Filmakers visuals are extrodinary in the telling of the
story. I usually avoid subtitled movies, it really wasn't
an issue with this movie. It is not a movie for those with
small children. but I would rcomend it to anyone else.
DENNIS ORGILL | Feb. 25, 2004
I wanted this film to be a spiritual milepost in movie
making history. I wanted it to be inspiring and uplifting
and faith-building. I knew it would be extremely violent
and gruesome, I was prepared for that. My hope was that
witnessing this graphic depiction of Jesus's suffering and
death would enlarge and deepen my understanding of his
transcendent, infinite, incomprehensible sacrifice. It did
not. While I admire and applaud Mel Gibson's courage and
faith, and his passion for the subject, I have to say that
his film fell far short of my expectations. Except for a
few (too few) very brief flashbacks of Christ's life, the
entire film wallows and revels in extreme suffering,
excruciating pain, vicious torment and unrelenting gore.
The Jewish leaders and rabble are all depicted as
blood-thirsty madmen, the Roman soldiers only as sadistic
fiends. At every turn, we are shown only evil, violence,
blood and death. There is no uplift when it's over, no
rejoicing at Christ's victory over sin and death, which is
the entire point of his suffering. We see demons and
devils, but no angels. I believe that Jesus suffered in the
way depicted in this film, and more. But I came away
without having been offered even a modicum of feeling for
his gospel, which, after all, means "GOOD news."
NOTE: This film is NOT for children. The violence is far
too extreme. It should have been rated NC-17. I cannot
recommend it to anyone.
STEVE HARRIS | Feb. 25, 2004
Well since I am an atheist I just looked at it as
interesting fiction. Is it possible for the human body to
take that much punishment?
JEFF | Feb. 25, 2004
Don't eat before you go.
JULIE | Feb. 25, 2004
If I could give this movie more stars, I would. Jeff Vice
is wrong once again. Two stars? Yes, the film is
violent. The tortures that were inflicted upon Jesus were
horrific. But how many of us really know what happens when
someone is scourged? This movie really brings home what
Jesus suffered...for ALL of us. Not for the faint of
heart, and don't buy popcorn, because there's no possible
way you're going to be able to eat while watching it.
I thought that a film with subtitles like this would have
less of an impact--that the subtitles would be
distracting. They're not. This movie is a must-see, for
adults, anyway. This is not for the kiddies, at all.
And the charges that the film is anti-Semitic are
ridiculous. The only people that defended Jesus were Jews,
and Jesus Himself was a Jew. The Romans come off the worst
in this, as they laugh while torturing Him.
This film is extraordinarily moving, and is far more than a
dry retelling of the Gospel story. I can't recommend it
enough.
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