Are they brain dead?????? 39 % raises for upper management?? Do they sort or deliver any mail?

EARLY OUT FOR EMPLOYEES 55 AND OLDER WITH 30 YEARS OR MORE,HELLO.WAKE UP.WITH INSENTIVE 6 MOS.SALARIE.TIME TO GO SMELL THE ROSES....

Will Potter forego his $72,000 a year raise awarded in May 2007 retroactive to January 2007 by the board of Postal Governors to show his sincerity in cutting costs?

HELLO - It's not an EARLY OUT if you are already at the age and years required to go. Those people can leave at anytime. They need to give the early out to people that aren't at the age and year requirment yet but meet the age and years worked to get a VERA, which is 50 years old with at least 20 years of service or 25 years of service and any age. Those are the people that they need to target - The others can leave already, they choose not to!

As a Postal employee with 25 years of service, I think that 5 day delivery would reduce costs without sacrificing service. Residential delivery really doesn't care if they get mail on Saturday or not. Most businesses are closed and don't get delivery anyway. The Postal Service would no longer need T-6's (if you work for the Post Office, you know what I mean) and it would mean a immediate reduction in cost due to vehicles being parked instead of being used. Another option would be evauluated routes for City carriers, but this would never happen due to the fact it would basically take away one of the biggest bargaining chips the unions have - - that being overtime...........

This job is getting more and more harder for the carriers.They tell us what time to leave what time to get back we deliver parcels but they tell us that they dont count it does not take no time. DUH.It is nothing like you see on tv.Every minute is timed.Only us (the carriers) have time limits for everything,we got 1.2 percent raise for 4 years in the rain,sleet,snow it is terrible.All they want is more more more.

I'd like to ad to Glen's points. It's so obvious... and you also have the other benefits... except for leave issues, you always have the regular on the regular routes (more accountability , beter end product for custumers) and no more damage control after your day off. Plus, you can then reduce carrier work force by one sixth to one tenth ,depending on who's cruching the numbers. Then charge a premium for optional sat delivery.

Offer a buyout to all eligible employees of (6) months pay and watch the door fly open. Something will have to give this year the increase in May will not solve anything.

the fuel savings...I meant to mention the fuel

Get rid of casuals

The Post Office has mastered sorting letters but in cetain districts it lags way behind its competitors in sorting parcels; with outdated machines that sort small parcels and other machines that destroy a good percentage of larger parcels in the process. Not to mention the fact that a huge amount of manhours are spent sorting small to medium to large parcels by hand the same way Ben Franklin did when he was Postmaster General some 235 years ago. The Post Office is labor/cost intensive by design.

Why not a 5 day work week for carriers. It
would save millions in fuel costs alone.Use PTf's on saturday to case mail for monday.

Close windows on saturdays.. we have enough contract stations out there to cover us.

Excess managers/ We are overstaffed with these people. they don not make us any money, carriers and clerks who move mail make money for the post office.

Early out no penalty for civil service employees with severance pay.

It's true, mail carriers are NOT machines.....we do work hard ,but, we do get paid well considering how many of us do Not have college degrees. We have something better, experience! If you know your job, your customers, and your responsibilites to your employer, you have it made..How many jobs out there pay sick leave, weeks of earned vacation, and generous wages..Its up to each individual to live within their means...I dont understand why so many of us complain so much when there is someone out there that is so much worse off.

lionhart
Now no more casual only TE.
Postal workerant You right about that. Cut little gave raise to other???

WE are also flooded in our office with supervisors. They all just sit around and eat and gab while the carriers are all doing their jobs out on the streets.
WAKE UP POSTAL UPPERS.....Start from the top and work your way down and watch how fast the savings add up.

"Why not a 5 day work week for carriers. It
would save millions in fuel costs alone.Use PTf's on saturday to case mail for monday."

for that. I don't mind seeing the Mail Carriers getting Saturdays off and I don't see anything wrong with not getting my mail on Saturdays...

Why should management forgo there 39% rase shoot they are only willing to give us 1.3% over 4 yrs and change the pay table for us

A drop in service is not far behind. Vending machines have already taken a hit.

Maybe they should let us fired some of the slugs that we have in the Post Office, then maybe then we will be profitable.

Unions killed the steel industry. Their greed is killing the auto industry. Many would be willing to sort and deliver mail for less pay than the current monopoly employees are assured. Big-city counter service might be more friendly too. And, didn't we just have a stamp price increase just last year? Maybe that's part of the reason usage is down. Smart businesses lower prices to increase sales!

Early out for those in the 5 year window, without a penalty,would have employees fly out the door.

Creative opportunities, for retirees within the 5 year window. 4 day work week, or creative days off to ease them into retirement

relax, fuel costs can be our money maker. we have the means to deliver our product efficiently, the relay box.

well...maybe the mailhandlers at my P&DC could contribute some of the AVERAGE $90,000 a year income they make from the all the overtime to the deficit? Oh yeah right...hehe

early outs is the way to go, these employees are ready to go! no penalties, also cut upper mgt bonuses!

The management it is the problem. They are so incompetant that they don't even know what is going on. I know I can't even get my mail delivered correctly even though I have contacted them multiple times. It isn't the carriers that are messing the system up. It is the incompetant managers. I know what I am talking about.

I use the post office for virtually all of my shipping and they have been fantastic. Having now shipped over 10,000 items they haven't lost one and the only damage has been on two very fragile low value items. I have shipped three items UPS ...one was damaged , one was lost ($750 value) and one got there. Please, Please, Please don't mess up the post office and turn us over to Fed Ex Ground and the UPS!!!

Get rid of Postmaster General John Potter and his management team. Ben Franklin I think would not be happy to the see what the USPS has become. I see so many managers in the USPS doing nothing. Many post offices do not even know the new postal rules sometimes over charging customers.

Brian-since they are so fantastic why can't I get my mail delivered properly ? This has been going on for some time not just a one time happening ! I go to the office and show them my mail and they don't know what the problem is and they look at it and say they don't know why, and I show them the printing the post Office puts on my mail and then they finally figure out that may be they are doing something wrong.
They looked at my mail and didn't know what I already knew, and I am not knowledgable about the postal serviec at all. I had to show them what they were doing wrong.

Early Outs with incentives.

It would be helpful to rework the change of address process.

My son completed an individual change of address order, and we no longer got any mail. The order was correct, but entered into the computer wrong. They fixed the computer. Now we get mail for everyone in the complex.

It took me six months to straighten out my credit card addresses that got changed by computer talking to computer, without any human intervention at all, other than me having to call the card companies multiple times to get my bills sent to me instead of my son.

When the dust settled, the Postal Service representative apologized that their employees had not been able to correctly read a change of address notice and enter it properly into the computer.

Our carrier is fantastic. (Actually, all three of them are pretty good.) But he cannot deliver our mail if it gets sent to another city by the computers.

Sorry your mail is not being delivered Dic...sounds like a problem with one mailman. The package that I sent yesterday morning priority to Texas was delivered this morning...and I'm shipping out of Alaska!

offer insentives to those that have time and age and see how many leave the po has become a old folks home with those going for 41-11

Get rid of excess mgmt. Get rid of mgmt bonuses, they already are paid too much. Potter and cronies,
give back your big fat raise! Stop promoting hurt
workers who don't know their job into mgmt, it is
hurting us!! The new law is a joke, if they had left the 2nd oz price of .23 in the last rate hike and not changed it to .17, we would have .06 profit and would not have to raise prices for a while. THINK!!! Marvin Runyon had it right,if your job doesn't involve touching the mail, it can be eliminated.

Sunshine...I couldn't agree with you more. It's obvious that much of the comments are from Postal Employees and from my perspective, most do not think that they have a responsibility to keep the Postal Service a viable business. I've worked with carriers in the past and have seen many of them "hiding" in a spot they think no one knows about and that is when the Postal Service had more volume. Now with a weak economy, possible recession and less volume, many of these same carriers think they should still get overtime. If any Postal Employee wants to have a secure job and a job to retire from, they need to look in the mirror and provide 8 hours of effort for 8 hours of pay. The "entitlement" mentality needs to change quickly.

Fred, The problem with you son's forwarding is quite common. I am a window clerk who also does the forwarding for the office. If you son's first name is the same as yours and he wrote down his middle initial, he cannot count on this to get your mail to stay with you. The machines disregard middle initials and only recognize the first name. Your carrier should have caught the mail pieces and only sent the legitimate fwds. Also, the system which is used now also looks for your mail where ever it enters the mail stream and pulls it out and processes it through the computer forwarding system. It was a much more efficient system when we did our own forwarding instead of a machine.

I don't know how your mail count is going thus far...but I know my mail is out there somewhere. It will show after the count, the big top banks on it. then when it's all done, we'll be working free hours, again.

I will sign my option sheet on mailcount, but I just can't see how I can sign that it is a fair count.

Get rid of all the INCOMPETENT POSTAL MANAGEMENT and you will save billions!

Flat rate boxes are really a deal for dealers who ship coins. My office routinely gets boxes that weigh more than 50 lbs and cost only $8.95! There ought to be a limit imposed of some kind. Think New York to Hawaii. What a deal.

When I first started at the PO 23 years ago, we had a carrier or clerk open the office and close it down. One management person came in later in the AM and took care of specific problems. Now we have to order extra chairs to put all the management butts in. We could save so much money if they let the workers do their jobs. Not once has a manager helped get the mail delivered more quickly. There unending stupid regulations and rules only slow the carriers down. If the PO doesn't cut all the management waste, the PO is doomed. It has to start from the top and work its way down. They need to get rid of 90% of the dead weight that never touches the mail. The only reason service is still good is because the workers find ways to make it work in spite of management.

The problem isn't inept management -- it's that the persons put in managment positions are simply TOO good! They all get snatched up by Fortune 100 comapanies. I can't tell you the number of times my phone rings in day, all inquiries and pitches from headhunters...

HA! Nobody leaves the P.O., unless they're retiring. That says something, don't it?

If it were not for the unions protecting the lazey the PO would not be in the shape its in today.

Unions have a place, but over the years they have created a welfare state within the PO for the sick, lame and lazey.

So the PO wants to balance a budget -
1: Break the unions /
2: Force the clerks and carriers making $70,000 + a year earn it /
3: Then ask the PMG how he can take a 39% raise when the PO is set to go in the red 1 billion

Well, I'de say Mr. Potter has come close to his billion dollar goal after this rural mail count.You think this is not going to effect service?! You've just alienated an entire craft. Congratulations.

5 day delivery is the way to cut. Just thoink of how much fuel, lights, heating would be saved. Sick time would drop. Moral would inmprove, which in turn would improve output. It's a win, win for everyone. I really don't think the American public cares if they have Sat. service or not.

From what I have already seen, their cuts will come in the form of shortening your time to do your work. If you are a carrier they will start telling you you walk too slow, if you are a clerk they will start telling you that your processing/sorting too few pieces per hour, if you are a mail handler they will start telling you that you are not loading/unloading the mail fast enough.. and if you are maintenance they will (and have) start saying your taking too long to fix that machine.
Overtime is a major target right now. Sick Leave is a major target right now. Keep an eye out brothers and sisters... your jobs are on the line, now more than ever.

Potter please please PLEASE give your job to someone who can pull us out of the mess.... I mean disaster you have created!

I agree with evryone who feels that the cuts should start at the top. Our OIC stands around in the middle of the room and stares at us (an office full of women), when I asked him if he didn't have a job to do, he said he was doing it. I asked him' they pay you to watch our butts? and he said Yes. WOW. I think he is screaming out for a pay cut!!!

too many mismangement family related stupidvisors and light duty senior carrier that only wants to case mail in the office. we are already being told by our stupidvisor not to deliver parcel to door and just leave notice to pickup to customer that have a long drive way to cut delivery time. 8 hours only rule - deliver everything no matter how much, accidents will be your fault. no more regular route to case for everybody- w/c causes a lot of miscase and misdelivery.

I am a rural carrier. I am so tired of the postal service cheating us out of money. Last count I lost 8,000.00 a yr. This count is another 8,000.00 I am making the same money I made when I first turned regular yrs ago.They cheated us out of retirement pay for 7 yrs as subs. We are the only craft that never makes any overtime! WHY do they only take from us. My pay is now 44k a yr and I have to work 6 days a week.
Management needs to take a cut in pay, they just sit around talking all day. Managers retire and the P.O. rehires them as consultants? Cut their bonus. Mr Potter hope u enjoy seeing hard working carriers lose their homes, and that u contributed to the recession. hope u enjoy your pay increase, while we stand in food lines.

The postal system wastes its money on stupid things and doesn't spend it efficiently where it needs to be spent. Ideas that look good on paper are implemented and don't work out in reality. RCA's are hired, hours are spent in training, and they wind up quitting since they are offered no incentives or partial benefits like PTFs are offered. Casual are hired for only 90 days and then let go just after the learn everything and then can't work for the rest of the year, so another has to be trained all over again. What sense does this make? Everytime there's a rate increase, customers think we're getting a pay raise. With the recent mail count, I'm taking a pay cut and losing a day off every two weeks. Management is not losing their bonuses or taking pay cuts. How is this fair when the employees are doing the work? It would pay the postal system to spend money to hire troubleshooters (current employees who know how things work) to visit each office for a few days and see where specifically money is being wasted and correct the situation.