Reader comments: Legislature gliding to a quiet finish

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Upset! | 7:55 a.m. March 2, 2008
Yet again our legislature has done nothing to slow down illegal immigration. This year they had a chance to discourage further breaking of our laws...but like always they have failed to act and have done nothing!

They seem to be more concerned about puppies than they are about the long term welfare of our state.

This (curbing illegal immigration) is the most important issue for our state to tackle at this time. This issue is in the forefront of Utah voters minds and yet nothing has been done! So, what can you do? Call, write, or email your representatives and get them to use these last few days to pass legislation that will discourage, instead of encourage, illegal immigration in our state!

Attention to logic!
Praise be | 10:49 a.m. March 2, 2008
Like every year, thank goodness it is almost over. Could you imagine the mischief and damage done if it went on any longer?
NAUSEA!!! | 1:23 p.m. March 2, 2008
They waste way too much time.
Again this year, no immigration legislation!!!
I what to puke!!!
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Dr Whoopee | 1:31 p.m. March 2, 2008
Why should they pay any attention to immigration? They have wine coolers to worry about!

Of course, if they don't understand immigration any more than they do wine coolers they'd probably offer not only citizenship but large tax payouts to those here illegally.
Finishing up | 4:29 p.m. March 2, 2008
This is when we really need to watch them.

Last year, they slid the voucher thing through right at the end.

Otherwise, they have been fairly impotent.
immigration good, math ??? | 6:59 p.m. March 2, 2008
The Legislature did the right thing by allowing these young immigrants to have their in-state tuition. They need to get an education like everyone else.

To my knowledge the legislature still has not acted on Senator Howard Stephens math task force which would raise math standards in Utah. Math education is much degraded from the 1970's when I went to school in Utah, I know because I have kids in school now and I can see a real difference.

Hopefully the legislature will see fit to do the right thing by all the students in Utah when it comes to their math education.
IM | 7:18 p.m. March 2, 2008
Have none of you that have posted comments about illegal immigration thought about the fact that Church leaders from many sects have asked for compassion? Do you NOT think that this is a reasonable request?
why obey the laws | 7:28 p.m. March 2, 2008
Why do they waste their time pushing laws onto legal citizens of America and allow then reward those breaking the law. mmmmm could it be the Gov with the help of the legislature has sold the sould of Utah by giving Corporations tax breaks and allowing illegals to take the jobs away from Americans who just want a fair wage to live on. Keep you in poverty and you will bow down to them. God Bless Utahs legislative body including the useless democrats who support illegal aliens What do we have to obey laws if the illegals don't?
re why obey the laws | 7:28 p.m | 8:32 p.m. March 2, 2008
It isn't that simple, my sister was able to get into a house after renting, and that would not have been possible without these immigrants labor on her house. The builder said they are excellent workers and charge a very good rate. Otherwise he would have had to charge her a lot more money for the house and she wouldn't have been able to afford it.

This didn't take work away from an american, because if she had to pay the price an american would have charged, the house wouldn't have been built.
RE: Immigration good, math??? | 8:45 p.m. March 2, 2008
I agree with your math comment. I teach school in Utah but grew up and went to public school out of state. I was shocked at how easy Utah was compared my old out-of-state school, and it didn't take long to find out why. In my school, we had plenty of textbooks and literature books to check out to every student. In my Utah school, we have classroom sets. There is also a great deal of pressure on teachers from administrators and parents to give passing grades to students who don't deserve them. I've even had a parent tell me once that because her student was absent, he shouldn't be held accountable for doing the work and also shouldn't be made to read because he doesn't like reading. I was floored at the audacity of such thinking. While most parents want their children to get a good education, I have seen an alarming trend in younger parents to demand excellent grades for little effort. When I try to toughen things, I get serious resistance from a minority but vocal group of parents. I have many other stories that would just amaze you.
Legislature abusing children | 8:59 p.m. March 2, 2008
Last Legislature, Senator Greg Bell and Rep Lorie Fowlke expressed "sincere"(?) concern for parents who are denied parent-time with their children and promised to deal with the issue this Legislature.

In effect, the HB0022, Expedited Parent-Time Enforcement Program, which is MEDIATION ONLY was presented. The language giving a Judge the latitude to change or modify visitation or custody was removed, AT THE REQUEST OF CUSTODIAL PARENTS. There are no consequences for parent-time interference.

Last year favored custodial parents, and likewise this year.

It is proven that children who have a relationship with their fathers have less emotional problems, suicides, substance abuse, and criminal activity. Also proven that fathers involved with their children pay child support PLUS. So how does it make sense to continue to pay millions to ORS for collecting Child Support, and millions for Court Costs, Programs and Institutes to deal with the end result of fatherlessness. PUT FATHER'S BACK IN THE LIVES OF THEIR CHILDREN.
wrz | 9:27 p.m. March 2, 2008
"The Legislature did the right thing by allowing these young immigrants to have their in-state tuition. They need to get an education like everyone else."

An education will do them not go since they can't legally get a job in the US as an illegal alien. Furthermore, they are supposed to be taking the jobs that Americans don't want. Are there jobs available to college grads the Americans don't want? I don't think so.

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