Reader comments: Tibetan no longer afraid to speak out

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Chester | 12:55 a.m. April 7, 2008
I just don't understandand why you want to be Larma's slaves again. Too much freedom in US?
Anonymous | 1:57 a.m. April 7, 2008
Most of Tibetan want peace, harmony and steability! i hope no more violence.
Joe | 6:10 a.m. April 7, 2008
The U.S. has spent billions of dollars in Iraq, most Iraqi do not have steady access to health care or electricity. They do not even have gas in this oil rich country! Many Iraqis are dying each day as a result of the invasion. No one knows exactly how many died. But I have not seem the same kind of emotion toward the Iraqis.

While I agree that the Chinese government is authoritarian in nature, not all what they do are wrong. There are too many mistakes in the media coverage of this event, which leads to many to question the motivations of the reporters!

The Kurds want independence. The Shiites want independence. Native Hawaiians want independence. Native Americans want independence. Look what they got?

Give me a break!
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Know your enemy | 8:14 a.m. April 7, 2008
The Chinese government has people post online on forums all over in international media in an attempt to form public opinion in its favor- I've seen it happen on a number of topics before, not just this one. So readers of articles on China, particularly on the topic of human rights, should be wary of the origin of posts supporting the red Chinese government over the rights of its citizens. It is a monster we will someday face- get familiar with its tactics.
Rich | 8:22 a.m. April 7, 2008
Be assured that "Chester" and "Joe" are in actuality Chinese propagandists. I am not in favor of an Olympic boycott because it wouldn't accomplish a thing. I am, however, in favor of boycotting the purchase of Chinese goods. At one time I was asked to help Chinese companies set up businesses here in the U.S. One reason I declined was because of China's human rights record. But I still bought Chinese goods, particularly furniture, because it was so inexpensive (and doubtlessly produced by practially slave labor). I am sorry for doing that. From now on I will buy goods only from countries that I believe are treating people properly. As for comparing China's invasion of Tibet and its killing of protestors there with the U.S. government's elimination of the Saddam Hussein regime in Iraq, there is little comparison. We are attempting to give Iraq independence and freedom but, believing that the Iraqis are not yet capable of operating under freedom and democracy until the insurgency is weak. China took away the freedom and democracy of Tibetans, murdering innocent people who were defending their freedoms of religion and free speech. China occupies Tibet to prevent freedom,democracy and independence.
Daniel | 9:59 a.m. April 7, 2008
Joe is right, there are advantages to Red China's "authoritarian" government. If you have the money, they have prisons full of tissue-typed organ donors ready to go on the operating table next to you for the harvesting of everything up to their hearts. Another advantage is that they don't have a Sierra Club to complain about their air and water pollution. And who can forget their world famous freedom of the press and internet and their lack of censorship. Tiananman Square is an example of their generous tolerance of political dissent. Theirs is truly an enlightened culture.
Anonymous | 11:32 a.m. April 7, 2008
The people of Tibet are perhaps the most spiritually-minded people in the world.
"Joe" and "Chester"? Ha! | 1:47 p.m. April 7, 2008
Could there possibly be a more desperately obvious pair of "American" names to be chosen by someone attempting to appear to be from the States? Laughable and infuriating all at once.
Foscter | 1:57 p.m. April 7, 2008
I'm a Utahn, living in Europe. Massive protests during the torch run in London, and the torch run through Paris has been canceled. This is the last chance people have to show their opposition to the removal of a culture.

Americans tend to take free speech for granted. We forget our own history: all our country's heroes who died fighting for freedom; for autonomy from Imperial Britain. These people are no different; these people being slaughtered in Tibet.
GoodGuyGary | 2:06 p.m. April 7, 2008
Think about now the Leader of a major religion in a western state of the country wants the state to be independent from its own country, what should the leader of the country do?

Also, does anyone know about "farm slave" system before the Communist took over the people where people are "most spiritually-minded people in the world."

Why would a country trying to spoil the most important event in it's history by letting Western media pulling its legs?

Why would the candidate hopefull critizing the Communist not doing anything to the third world country while her fallow President was so eager to have a war on the otherside of the world? Last time I checked, their is oil at the war zone while there are only hungry people in the third world country.

Deseret News Editor, where was my last post?
Joe | 2:49 p.m. April 7, 2008
I live in Utah and I cherish the freedom of speech in the U.S. Please do not question other people's motives when they speak up their minds. Talk about the fact!

When Japan invaded China and colonized Korea a half century ago, they also "wanted" to give freedom to those countries. You can not kill people and give people freedom at the same time.

I agree that China may have invaded Tibet. But Tibet was under the influence of the Chinese Empire for centuries. You can go to Wikipedia to take a look.

So how long the U.S. has occupied Alaska and Hawaii? Should the states be returned to the aboriginal people? Are they are too weak to handle freedom?

Look at how African Americans live in this richest country of the world! Their life expectancy is shorter than those in the Communist Cuba! How many of them are murdered on the street each day?

When there were racial riots in South Central and other places, how many of you supported the rioters? Many of the rioters also wanted freedom and equality. Can you compare that with what is going on in Tibet?

Give me a break!
Tokyo Rose | 3:24 p.m. April 7, 2008
GoodGuyGary sure sounds like Tokyo Rose of WWII. Probably some operative of the Chinese government. That is SCARY!!

Bottom line is China is opressive and killing people-- their own people. Our country (USA), is certainly not perfect, but we sure understand freedom. Thank heavens we can even talk about this subject without worrying about being arested (like would happen in China).

We are free to be critical of our country. GoodGuyGary-- I dare you to got to China and be critical. Tell us how the food in prison is (if you live).
GoodGuyGary | 4:16 p.m. April 7, 2008
To Joe:

I support what you said, expect China didn't invade Tibet. Tibet had been a Chinese terriority for thousands of years, and Tibetan is one of the five major tribes of China. The other four are Han (majority of Chinese are Han), Manchu, Mongolian, Muslim (yes, they have blue eyes and brond hair, but they are Chinese).

The whole things remind me about the last Cold War. Everything from the Iron Curtain is bad, and this "country of freedom" has every right to critize them. Didn't one of the most powerful country boycott their Cold War enemy on the most important game too?

No matter how the Western media talks bad about the Communist, they are turning into the world power house, and no one can change it.
GoodGuyGary | 4:29 p.m. April 7, 2008
To Tokyo Rose:

I dare you to be critical in the next general conference too. Now, what are you going to do?

I have not have chance to taste the food in prison (and hopefully will never LOL). But I think I can guarantee you that the Chinese tax payers money will not be spent on the prisoner's steak dinner and flat screen TV in their cell like in the "free country". LOL, keep working hard and pay more tax since they need you to support their "long vacation".
Joe | 4:55 p.m. April 7, 2008
Do not defame other people. Talk about the fact here!

I agree that the Chinese gov has a bad record on the freedom of information. The regime is repressive in political sense. But it at least has given the people economic freedom and improved the lives of billions.

The U.S. gov. supports the most oppressive regimes on earth such as Egypt and Saudi Arabia. Women were not even allowed driving cars in Saudi. Women were sentenced to death for being raped by others. Have you voiced your concerns? The U.S. is sending billions to the Saudis and the Egyptians each year. Have you ever blinked your eyes? The U.S. sent detainees to Egypt to get them tortured. What does the U.S. get from those tortures? False information! And it was used to justify the invasion of Iraq.

Freedom of speech is not a guarantee for freedom! How many of you have argued against the war beforehand? How many of you are voicing your concerns after the U.S. spent close to a trillion dollars, after more than 4,000 solders lost their lives, after tens of thousands innocent Iraqis wasted their lives?

For what? Freedom? Give me a break!
Niznet | 5:49 p.m. April 7, 2008
GOLDEN GATE SF,CA 040708.
LONG LIVE DALAI LAMA.
ELEPHANT ON THE ROPE WILL SOON FALL.
FREEDOM IN TIBET IS FREEDOM FOR THE WORLD.
ONE WORLD. ONE DREAM. FREE TIBET.
bhparkman | 6:01 p.m. April 7, 2008
The US is free because we know we are. My ancestors bled for this freedom on a yearly basis. I bled my ten gallons over the years - I've earned my liberty. I know in the future I'll have to bleed more, and so be it.

If the Olympic committee wants the games in Communist China, then good luck to 'em. I don't care for the Olympics. I have better things to do.

If anyone doesn't care about our fathers blood shed for our liberty by their enemies, then that's your right. However, if anyone doesn't want the sacrifices they made, then I'm more than happy to accept what you won't. And in that case, you're on your own to earn your liberty - just like I did.
Anonymous | 6:20 p.m. April 7, 2008
Tibetan Buddhism is the emerging Great Religion (I think of it as more of a life philosphy)
Almost all of Scotland has become enlightened to its sheer simplicity and beauty.

Nothing resembling a cult whatsoever as a certain denominination is viewed.
Anonymous | 12:26 p.m. April 9, 2008
It takes courage to speak out on controversial matters. I applaud those Tibetans who would speak out against those who would force them to take a back seat in their own country! I don't understand why anyone would not stand up for human rights anywhere! Those monks died for the voice of freedom, our soldiers in Iraq have died for that freedom... anyone who stands up for freedom has my vote!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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