Reader comments: U. forecast: Climate data working well

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Doug V. | 9:20 a.m. April 7, 2008
Did the University climate models correctly forecast the winter of 2007-2008 would the coldest in the US over the last 3 decades--and explain WHY, with record-breaking increases in world-wide CO2 emissions, did planetary temperatures still drop?

With all the weather models and real-time observation stations, RADAR, and satellite imagery; the 6:00PM news still has a LOT of trouble getting the 3-day forecast correct.

The true beauty of “climate models” is that there is ALWAYS a justifiable rationale and scientific explanation to why they can only accurately predict the long-term catastrophic climate change, but aren’t able to correctly forecast current weather trends within a measurable period.

If the models are working so well, what are the “predictions” for the next five years? When the model gets those correct, I’ll consider their dire predictions for the next fifty.

...Oh yeah, and if non-forecastable solar-flares are not the major driver behind planetary climate changes in our solar-system, in what way did SUVs in Utah cause remarkably similar increases and decreases in observable temperatures and climate during the same periods on Mars?
It's good they improved them | 9:31 a.m. April 7, 2008
Because as Doug has pointed out, NONE of the computer models used a decade ago predicted the current downturn in temperature despite a nearly 5% increase in global atmospheric CO2 concentrations.

Every one of them predicted the earth would be hotter today than in 1998; the only difference was the predicted degree of warming.
To Doug V | 9:43 a.m. April 7, 2008
Rather than thinking in microchange terms, these models are designed to measure and foresee macro changes, therefore one or two years where the stats do not closely follow the model mean little.
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Factmonger | 10:24 a.m. April 7, 2008
Interesting that they chose to cut off the models in 1999, which was the end of the 20 year warming trend. Temperatures have been flat since. I have a hard time believing this cutoff was not a deliberate, biased choice.
Climate Change | 10:39 a.m. April 7, 2008
Historical data suggests that using large amounts of solid state DHMO could negate the effects of CO2 and reverse global warming.
veedub | 12:37 p.m. April 7, 2008
So, Climate Change, how do you propose to get those large amounts of ice? From outer space?
To Doug | 10:13 p.m. April 7, 2008
Climate is the broad spectrum of things and how things will play out in the long run, it wont predict the hottest or coldest years. And second, CO2 emissions and temperatures are correlated but dont necessarily cause one another.

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