what a joke

A joke indeed, Michael Savage predicted all this.

So, the Texas authorities acted on a prank call. There's a whole lotta gray area here. Scenario....if my ex is mad at me and calls the police anonymously and tells them that she heard shots fired inside my home the police would come out ask me if anyone else was in the residence and I'd say no. Then they would ask me if they could come in, if I say no to that then they can't come in. They would ask me if I heard any discharge of firearms and ask me if I owned a weapon. No and no. Now they would have to go and try to get a search warrant....and good luck with that. How could the judge issue a search warrant in Texas? Because they 'just knew' something strange was happening in the compound? If a resident breaks the law unknowingly the judge says "ignorance of the law is no excuse". It seems the judge can claim ignorance by 'not knowing that the Sarah phone call was a prank call'.

Looks like they found the bitter outsider!

It only took three weeks to figure out that 719 area code ain't in Texas.

I also find it interesting that an armed militia stormed the compound quite swiftly, based on a "phone tip" that in the end looks like a hoax. Yet, this woman who has been a "person of interest" and free to go about her life for several days now, has not been officially arrested and charged. Why the double standard?

Another thought is, the judge mentioned in her ruling of how she was splitting up the children for placement, that the "Teen mothers and pregnant teens would be kept together". Which...regardless of whether or not "THE Sarah" ever existed....shows that indeed there were Sarah-like-girls in there being forced into underage marriage and sex. So for their sakes, I'm glad they have been discovered, and have a chance to be helped.

"Teen mothers and pregnant teens would be kept together". Which...regardless of whether or not "THE Sarah" ever existed....shows that indeed there were"

"Teen mothers" could be anywhere from 13-20 years of age, so that statement does not in itself show that there were "Sarahs" on the ranch. Anyway, CPS has already given reason to doubt their ability to guess ages.

Long live Janet Reno and the Branch Davidians.

There have been lots of photographs coming from the YFZ ranch, the first temporary shelter and the coliseum. I have not seen a single pregnant woman, let alone a pregnant teenager. Not even a fat person! The judge's ruling is a self-protective move to give credibility to the claim that underage girls were being abused and to quell public criticism of her decision to break up these families.

There is no reason to treat teenage mothers differently; it is the baby who needs his/her mother no matter what the mother's age.

To Double Standard:

I haven't seen any pictures but sheer logic tells me that of the 100+ women/wives on the YFZ ranch that...there are pregnancies. Take any group of 100 women in the US and some will be pregnant. Lack of proof isn't proof.

Normally I would hesitate to make such a statement, and I am sure I'm going to "catch it" for what I say, but here it goes:

Rozita Swinton is a hero! Had she not risked her own self in making the call to Texas authorities, think of how many children would have been subjected to rape?

Does this excuse her? Not all the way, but she should not get a felony out of it. Sometimes civil disobedience is necessary for the greater good of the community. (Read Hardin!)

It does seem that Texas authorities kind of agree because they say despite the call, they found AMPLE evidence to take custody of these poor brainwashed children drinking the funky Kool-Aid of Warren Jeffs.

if you raided any low-income inner-city neighborhood you would find more examples of abuse and teenage pregnancy in not just young girls but sexual and physical abuse in young boys as well. Seems to me that this phone call provided Texas an excuse to go after someone's belief system and not an interest in justice. I don't condone modern polygamy, but I worry that this has gone far enough that if the government doesn't agree with your beliefs, it can take your children away, justifying it with abuse.

It is a given that the law was 14 years old until texas changed it. So next on the list is quinceañera for the mexican families. They celebrate womanhood at 15 years of age. The Mexicans fought for their land and white folks won. Now they can start on taking all the 15 year old girls from their homes and let them join the FLDS girls and boys.

No, there were NO SARAHS THAT FIT THE DESCRIPTION. None of them were beaten, ribs broken, asking to be removed from their homes, or anything else. There were YOUNG MARRIED WOMEN there. All of whom free willingly entered into marriages (not a single unwilling marriage has been documented there YET).

Amazing all the Nazi tactic lovers out there. Get ready for them to be inflicted on YOU!

Jonathan - male Mormon Fundamentalist
CaptiveFLDSChildren.org

It shouldn't have taken even one phone call to get authorities in there.
I keep wondering...what if these people were gay, and had adopted a bunch of children and kept them in a compound? Or, how about if they were polygamist..wives with multiple husbands? There's no way there would be this support from Utah in either case; rather mass condemnation.
Go texas. Sometimes, things are just wrong.

It seems to me the Texas Rangers went to Colorado to make sure that nothing that would prove the whole Sarah call was a total hoax would show up.

I know this sounds a bit paranoid of me. However, the whole thing has gotten way out of hand. The Texas authorities are so indept that they have significantly undercounted the number of children they seized, they ramrodded a mass hearing and so on. They have lied to the mothers, they have confiscated the cell phones of the mothers after they complained about their conditions and on and on. If it is true that the marriage laws of Texas were changed only in 2005 than I very much feel this whole thing is planned persecution.

The search warrant called for a collection of evidence of child abuse AND bigamy based law enforcement's observations while serving a prior warrant.

'Mormon fundamentalist' is such a misappropriated term. Polygamy has never been a fundamental part of Mormonism, and "fundamentalist" or "orthodox" in the case of the FLDS isn't consistent with the definition of the same terms as used in other world religions. Joseph Smith stated: "The fundamental principles of our religion are the testimony of the Apostles and Prophets, concerning Jesus Christ, that He died, was buried, and rose again on the third day, and ascended into heaven; and all other things which pertain to our religion are only appendages to it." (See TPJS p.130) The religion "fundamentally" is about Christ not about polygamy, so perhaps a new name is in order, much like the route taken by the RLDS.