Reader comments: LDS rebut N.Y. Times Web article

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Don | 9:02 a.m. May 6, 2008
If The NYT had any integrity they would publish Elder Jensen's letter of May 5th.
A reader | 11:54 a.m. May 6, 2008
The NYT used to be the authoritative voice for news in this country. Lately it has been little better than the supermarket tabloids. I doubt they will publish Elder Jensen's letter...or anyone else's.
Eagan Who????? | 12:15 p.m. May 6, 2008
The problem here is that the New York Times and Mr. Egan have 'NO' integrity. The pure and simple fact that Elder Jensen wrote a poigant respone to Egan's attack demonstrates that Egan had nothing to throw around except rhetoric.

His article was based on 'his' simpleton opinions and not by scholarly research as was Brother Jensen.

It is unfortunate that Egan would be allowed to write an article such as it was on biased grounds w/o delving into the subject on more substantive information and most of all, research.

Maybe Mr. Egan should report on easier topics such as New York Yankee baseball. And considering the year the Yankee's are having, he could draw his conclusions more appropriately. In other words, the Yankee's play winning baseball as well as Mr. Egan writes. In other words, neither is very good.

Hey maybe Derek Jeter could take a stab about writing on the historical nature of poligimous
relationships comparing FLDS behavior to the behavior of the LDS Church in the 1870's. Couldn't hurt. Jeter might actually out-do Eagan and clear the fence so-to-speak. Egan's effort was nothing short of pathetic. Slo dibbling ground ball that goes foul. Lousey writer, lousey hitter!!!
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jimbo | 12:44 p.m. May 6, 2008
If the NYT and Mr. Egan would have done even a little research on this topic they would realize how worthless the artical is that Egan wrote.
Kim | 2:18 p.m. May 6, 2008
The worthless article that Elder Jensen felt compelled to answere....mmmhhh wonder why that is ...
Anonymous | 2:18 p.m. May 6, 2008
It appears as if Mr. Egan is putting forth little effort to earn his income. If he had any integrity he would have researched the subject matter more fully. If he had he would have most certainly come up with a better article than he did.
Dale | 2:34 p.m. May 6, 2008
Jensen is wrong. This was a bad move to try to rebut the Times. Egan has done a good job of writing this article, and is a well-respected journalist. LDS can trash talk him and the Times all you want, but that is only going to make you look more foolish, backward, and out of touch.
Hey, what happened! | 2:45 p.m. May 6, 2008
Hey what happened to all the really good posts (>170) that were here about this article about an hour ago? This flipping Pravda!
David Jessop | 3:08 p.m. May 6, 2008
A mormon is a mormon is a mormon. Although there are different beliefs among people of all faiths the LDS church must stop putting the blame on other people.
John Lambert | 3:34 p.m. May 6, 2008
To continue on previos arguments.

Egan's assesment of Buchanan's sending the army to Utah is seriously falwed.

The accusations of the run-away officials were old and unjustified. Buchanan did not try to effect a peaceful change in who the governor was but assumed the worst and sent in federal troops.

There are allegations that this was done in part to support or cover fradulent contractors, give contracts to the secretary of war's friends and other similar issues. So the percentage of Federal troops sent is irrelevant, they quite likely wanted to send as many troops as possible.

Since Egan went on a tirade against Mitt he should have pointed out that Mitt's own ancestor, Mr. Wilken, a native of Germany, came to Utah with Johnston's Army.

Another thing that Egan ignores is that in 1857 Brigham Young was in violation of no law. The first anti-polygamy law was not passed until 1863, so this is a misleading confusion of the process of the anti-Mormon crusade and its coming under the cloak of law.
John Lambert | 3:35 p.m. May 6, 2008
For you nay sayers,

The New York Times has published Elder Jensen's response on their website.
Egan | 3:52 p.m. May 6, 2008
Egan did his research. Read the article before making ignorant claims about his integrity. The article is accurate.
Re: Dale & Kim | 4:06 p.m. May 6, 2008
Dale because you want to believe it and you have a huge chip on your shoulder (or else you wouldn't bother posting your drivel), it's your "foolish, backward and out of touch" opinion that Mr. Egan did a good job at writing his uneducated piece. I've been the victim of media bias over the past year and in my business I can sit back and laugh at the misquotes and misinterpretations of what I said being taken out of context. But in business PR is PR and it's FREE advertising.

But....

(Kim) No matter how idiotic, and absured Mr. Egans article is to the educated and studious, the Church needs to respond because of the publication it was in and the damage that even ignorant comments can do to missionary work. For heavens sake we have the internet, TV, Radio, Satelite radio, etc. and millions of people throughout the US and the world still think that men in the LDS Church are still living with multiple wives here in Utah. So of course a response is justified.
CougarKeith | 6:57 p.m. May 6, 2008
Egan is certainly misinformed and way out of touch with reality of the situation. 19th Century LDS Women VOTED which was a basic RIGHT THE United States DENIED women in the states. As Elder Jensen pointed out, they held jobs, were WELL EDUCATED and were granted a higher Social Status than women of their Counterparts of the Common United States where those women were viewed more as "Property" than human beings with rights! Women had careers, were WELL RESPECTED, and were heard. This was not COMMON PRACTICE for women in the "United States" who were viewed more along the lines of Property of their husbands. I am so sorry people such as this reporter are so misinformed and ignorant as to not have a clue of the reality of "Plural Marriage" in 19th Century Mormon Culture. Read some journals about it and GET THE FACTS, BOTH GOOD AND BAD! You'll be surprized at what you find!
Jarlai | 7:52 p.m. May 6, 2008
It is easy to slam duck a situation and then quickly apologize.Politicians are famous for this. Is this your game plan, Egan, and who ever else..Some People yearns to read writings of this nature. Is this why you write of this nature?Feeding people that strive for this type of messages...We've come along way haven't we Egan..Too bad it wasn't for the good in life or spiritually uplifting for the good in life.
1987 | 11:12 p.m. May 6, 2008
Typical NY Times sensationalist semi-truth journalism. Other than a fire starter in the canyons or toilet paper deeper in the canyons, the NY Times has no value or validity. It used to, but ever since the Washington Post broke the Watergate story - the NY Times has had an inferiority complex and relies on fact only when it needs to.

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