Reader comments: Utah Jazz: Lakers Turiaf ejected for flagrant foul

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jazzfan | 4:39 p.m. May 11, 2008
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Good Call | 5:01 p.m. May 11, 2008
I'm glad the refs had the courage to make the correct, albeit controversial, call. We don't need plays from either team that can potentially lead to injuries.
Agreed | 5:17 p.m. May 11, 2008
It was upsetting that the announcers (Hubie and Mike) didn't even note the reason Turiaf was given the flagrant two! The play was over--there had been a whistle blown before Price drove to the basket. I mean, maybe Price was asking for it by driving after the foul was called, but Turiaf messed up. A flagrant foul was the right call.
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Anonymous | 5:20 p.m. May 11, 2008
It wasn't controversial in any way. The refs blew the whistle atleast 3-5 seconds before the incident happend. Price just kept going after the whistle and Turiaf had to body slam him to the floor. It was the right call.

But if the whistle hadn't blown and that same play would happen, it would be a flagrant-1 maybe. I would just call it a good hard foul because they were both in the air.

But the bottom line is, it was after the play was stopped.
TEJA | 5:21 p.m. May 11, 2008
It wasn't controversial in any way. The refs blew the whistle atleast 3-5 seconds before the incident happend. Price just kept going after the whistle and Turiaf had to body slam him to the floor. It was the right call.

But if the whistle hadn't blown and that same play would happen, it would be a flagrant-1 maybe. I would just call it a good hard foul because they were both in the air.

But the bottom line is, it was after the play was stopped.
Anonymous | 6:09 p.m. May 11, 2008
I've never liked Turiaf. The guy's a thug. You don't have to look at him two seconds to figure that out. And when you watch him play, and the hard fouls he gives, there's no doubt. Any time idiots like him get thrown out it's a good day.
magnus | 6:52 p.m. May 11, 2008
It's going to hurt the Lakers if he has to sit game 5. Their frontcourt depth isn't that good to begin with.
Nancy May 11,2008 | 7:01 p.m. May 11, 2008
Why don't let sha-sha play or make alot of shoot he do a good jobs because colby was hurt if they play same plan on last sunday they gonna lost again I love lakers. Almost 20 years I never miss even one game
.... | 8:02 p.m. May 11, 2008
Nancy May do you speak English? Honestly, you're a Lakers ran crashing our party and you don't even have good grammar.
larry averett | 8:06 p.m. May 11, 2008
ABC tried to down play Turiaf's foul, he didn't cause the cut with his arm, it was the fact that he flipped him on his head. A hard dirty foul, and he had is hand in the air within a second, he knew it. Its hard to take when Kobe is so protected, he gets fouls if he falls down by himself. With the new programs on cable you don't have to wait for replays you can watch them over and over. Kobe had fouls driving where he wasn't even touched, and those are three point calls, hes dead on, shooting fouls. Maybe LA feels the same, but I honestly feel Utah have to beat LA and the refs.
The Napster | 8:25 p.m. May 11, 2008
Hey, there were late whistles all game long. I remember thinking 4-5 times, "that was a late whistle." But it went both ways. A flagrant 2 is intentional contact to injure a player, and watching Turiaf coming down on Price with both arms, throwing him to the floor so that he had 4 stitches over his eyebrow, was definately intentional. I'm sorry to all you whining LA fans, but this is a good call. I know y'all must want to stick with Phil Jackson and whine after each game about the reffing, but take the advice of Deron, who also thought the reffing was tough in game 4, and "not worry about it. You can't worry about it."

Just play the game like men or cry on your knees like women. Oh, wait. Kobe did that already.
Jazz Fan in NC | 8:56 p.m. May 11, 2008
The comment by anaymous above is wrong. The foul was hard, but not intentionally trying to hurt him. Even Price agreed he wasn't trying to hurt him. Ronny Turiaf is no thug. I followed his time at Gonzaga and he's just an enthusiastic guy happy to be playing basketball.

Glad to see the Jazz pull this one out.
Eye Dee Ten Tee | 10:22 p.m. May 11, 2008
If I never miss even 1 game for tweny yeers maybe I two can learn too spell. More sha sha. Sha sha can make the shoot. Alot of shoot.

Thank you, Nancy, for making me smile even moore on May 11th, 2008. I would wish you a happy Mother's Day, but I can only hope that I won't have to. God bless your children.
foul | 10:52 p.m. May 11, 2008
yeah, it was a hard foul, but it was his off hand that did the most damage, and was maybe the reason for the flagrant 2. Maybe the ticky tack tech on memo was the make up? Either way, it was an unnecessarily hard foul, with more than just a swat at the ball. Sasha is an idiot as well for getting in price's face after.
Hard | 11:52 p.m. May 11, 2008
I've watch it many times on DVR and Turiaf put a forearm to the chest of Price which threw him off balance and to the floor. I will admit I think Turiaf is a thug and it was the correct call however he should NOT sit out game 5.

Also, the way he looked Price down after is an indication of his intent.
Anonymous | 12:46 a.m. May 12, 2008
turiaf is a good guy, its not like it was dirk part II or anything, but, the whistle was blown and it was obvious from every angle he was not in the act. so it was a good call to give him a flagrant foul but if price didnt hit the floor hard and come up bloody then turiaf would have still been in the game. phil jackson is a dork and should be fined for blatently questioning the refs.
Anonymous | 12:52 a.m. May 12, 2008
whats up with former zags, turiaf has a bad heart, morrison is a diabetic. karma?
Moto X | 12:20 p.m. May 12, 2008
"Hard" got it right above. It was Turiafs other arm that caused the collision so hard to bounce Price to the ground. Turiaf went for the block but reached a long ways across. I think he was trying to make a basketball play--not maim him.

Regardless, the outcome is the outcome. The NBA has to have some measure of protection for PG's with the ball going to the hoop to score. If big bodies are allowed to obliterate and bash the PG's into the basketball standard everytime they go to the hoop, the game would deteriorate fast.

I don't think there was alot of malice/intent but he still bounced him way to hard and made no attempt to wrap him up/break his fall when they collided. He was not too disappointed that Price went down.

I am not so sure about suspending him. I have seen alot worse than that. It was not like he grabbed his neck or face so my guess is he will be back on the floor game 5.

Besides the NBA has now figured out that Kobe will need Turiafs help.

The NBA has to maintain their "agenda" at all costs.

Go Jazz!!
Aaron | 12:52 p.m. May 12, 2008
Turiaf is a thug?! "you can tell just by looking at him." way to be stereotypical. if you knew anything about the guy you would know he is no thug AT ALL. couldnt'e be further from the truth in fact. no way he was trying to hurt price. they are good friends in fact. price even said himself he didn't think turiaf had intent to hurt him. and for the person that said turiaf stared him down after. Are you kidding?! he didn't even look at price, he just raised his hand, which he does after EVERY foul that is called on him. some of the comments i've seen about the play are baffling. flagrant 2's are much worse than what turiaf did. and as far as the whistle goes, there is this thing called continuation. it is smart to try and block a shot EVEN if you hear a whistle to avoid the 3 point play. price was driving to the basket HARD like the play was still going on, so maybe turiaf didn't want the continuation.

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