Reader comments: Polygamist sect's finances are murky
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lyn | 7:48 p.m. May 15, 2008
Indeed, what IS the problem? They are industrious, diligent, and work with their own hands. "By their fruit you shall know them."
Anonymous | 8:35 p.m. May 15, 2008
Why is the Deseret News covering this story so closely????? These people are not from Utah and they are not LDS, therefore there is no connection to the Deseret News. I'm sick of seeing so many articles on the subject! Aren't you?
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Was skeptical | 10:45 p.m. May 15, 2008
I'm not happy with the laws that were broken(of course as yet unproved) but I guess the FLDS take "put your shoulder to the wheel, push along," seriously. This new information is really going to put a thorn in the side of the CPS, who are doing their best to find evidence that the children were abused in other ways besides underage marriages. Sorry Texas, it looks like the kids were healthy, well fed, and learning how to be hard working and contributing members of their society.
Unfortunately, I'm sure that if officials there dig deep enough they'll find some error or infraction in the finances which will give them grounds for another "aha, we've got them now" moment.
Unfortunately, I'm sure that if officials there dig deep enough they'll find some error or infraction in the finances which will give them grounds for another "aha, we've got them now" moment.
Red Texan | 10:58 p.m. May 15, 2008
What's the problem? Let's see, could it be little things like fraud regarding the raiding of the trust fund? Could it be that the idealistic community was all just one big fraud? An illusion whose underbelly has now been exposed for all the world to see?
Texas leading the way, with Canada expected to liberate the children any day now. About damn time.
Texas leading the way, with Canada expected to liberate the children any day now. About damn time.
millstone | 10:58 p.m. May 15, 2008
It's a land grab some powerful and unscrupulous people in Texas are using CPS and now the IRS to go after the FDLS people. IRS and CPS are not keen on due process or the Constitution. Congressmen and Senators who represent Utah might be of assistance to those persecuted FDLS people in dealing with the IRS.
eLLe | 11:00 p.m. May 15, 2008
Write your US senators and house reps. Demand they order GW Bush to send in federal troops to TX to stop this terrorism. Presidents have done this in the past for civil rights violations.
Rick Perry, Judge Walthers, law enforcement, and CPS officials should be arrested and charged with crimes against humanity, and civil rights violations, and false imprisonment and constitutional violations.
Write also to Sen. Hilliary Clinton, Sen. Obama, and Sen. McCain and demand this as well. How dare they even show their faces...for president...in the midst of Tx crimes.
Rick Perry, Judge Walthers, law enforcement, and CPS officials should be arrested and charged with crimes against humanity, and civil rights violations, and false imprisonment and constitutional violations.
Write also to Sen. Hilliary Clinton, Sen. Obama, and Sen. McCain and demand this as well. How dare they even show their faces...for president...in the midst of Tx crimes.
Gal50 | 11:45 p.m. May 15, 2008
Nearly every post I've made has been in opposition to the FLDS. But, in this case I really admire their work ethic. A lot can be accomplished when you think you are proving that you are worthy of entering heaven.
It seems that the parents will have to demonstrate that they can make decisions in the best interest of their children and not allow Warren Jeffs to make those decisions. This will probably keep them from returning to the ranch. What will become of the ranch. It probably shouldn't go to waste. It could be used for a vacation site or a residence for retired FLDS, but what retiree wants to be away from their family?
It seems that the parents will have to demonstrate that they can make decisions in the best interest of their children and not allow Warren Jeffs to make those decisions. This will probably keep them from returning to the ranch. What will become of the ranch. It probably shouldn't go to waste. It could be used for a vacation site or a residence for retired FLDS, but what retiree wants to be away from their family?
Anonymous | 11:55 p.m. May 15, 2008
Again, Warren Jeffs and his best friends take away the freedom of the people by taking all their money and redistributing goods...they don't even own their own houses...or possessions...sounds like mind controlling communism to me.
pahrumppete | 2:24 a.m. May 16, 2008
Plural marriage is illegal in every state and western nation.
Forced "marriage", singular or plural, of children is illegal.
Any person, other than legally established officials of federal, state, county or city governments, who seeks to disrupt biological families, singular or plural, is violating multiple laws.
Criminal homicide is illegal.
Do FLDS apologists suggest FLDS officials and male elders have the right to ignor any and all laws of any and all states and nations?
Including MURDER, RAPE, KIDNAPPING and THEFT?
Forced "marriage", singular or plural, of children is illegal.
Any person, other than legally established officials of federal, state, county or city governments, who seeks to disrupt biological families, singular or plural, is violating multiple laws.
Criminal homicide is illegal.
Do FLDS apologists suggest FLDS officials and male elders have the right to ignor any and all laws of any and all states and nations?
Including MURDER, RAPE, KIDNAPPING and THEFT?
Jay | 6:30 a.m. May 16, 2008
No tax-exemption is great. How about social security and un-employment payments? Remember the polygamist in Utah, who supposedly supported his multiple wifes and kids by selling magazine subscriptions.
To Millstone | 6:42 a.m. May 16, 2008
The problems with the trust atarted as far back as 2006. A CPA by the name of Bruce Wisan has been trying to straighten out the mess since then. It has nothing to do with the FLDS in Texas as far as I know. It is concerning the UEP in Arizona and Utah.
Good and Bad | 7:13 a.m. May 16, 2008
Like a hot fudge sundae, with vanilla ice cream, sweet hot fudge, whipped cream, nuts, and a cherry on top...
sprinkled with dead flies.
Good: A strong work ethic and willingness to share with each other. Mothers who love and care for their children. Self-sufficiency, to a degree. A healthy lifestyle. Strong faith.
Bad: Untruthful leaders who taken advantage of the trust innocent people place in them. Mind-control. Incest. Forced arranged underage marriages. Child rape. Abandoning unwanted children. Welfare fraud. Tax fraud. Reassignment of families. False imprisonment. Kidnapping. No freedom of choice.
sprinkled with dead flies.
Good: A strong work ethic and willingness to share with each other. Mothers who love and care for their children. Self-sufficiency, to a degree. A healthy lifestyle. Strong faith.
Bad: Untruthful leaders who taken advantage of the trust innocent people place in them. Mind-control. Incest. Forced arranged underage marriages. Child rape. Abandoning unwanted children. Welfare fraud. Tax fraud. Reassignment of families. False imprisonment. Kidnapping. No freedom of choice.
um... | 9:49 a.m. May 16, 2008
the FLDS here in Utah/arizona have avoided paying protey taxes for years!!!! they just barely started to pay under threat of eviction...look closer texas
um? | 11:38 a.m. May 16, 2008
maybe you should do a little research on who pays taxes. I believe that is public information. A few years ago the Spectum, (yellow paper that it is) recorded Hildale to have the highest tax rate in Utah. And, all the taxes were paid. I'm sure the same could be said for Colorado City.
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This is a capitalist country isn't it??
What's the problem?? Other groups should take lessons and earn their own way.