Reader comments: Cottonwood Heights approves plans for hotels

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Bradh | 11:23 a.m. Sept. 24, 2008
If Cottonwood Heights was serious about helpful development, they would get rid of that awful gravel pit eyesore at the mouth of Big Cottonwood and turn that into condos and a hotel.
Anonymous | 11:47 a.m. Sept. 24, 2008
I'm to understand then that the residents of the area spoke out AGAINST the hotels, yet the City Council voted unanimously to approve the zoning? Does anyone else smell something stinky going on? I'll certainly remember this when the City Council comes up for re-election.
Ron | 11:51 a.m. Sept. 24, 2008
This is right in line with the decisions being made by our city council. They do not listen to the residents and do whatever they want (or what the developers want). They complain that sl county rode over them and that is why we needed a city, so the county would stay out of our business. Problem now is we have a council and Mayor who are not listening to their citizens. This is part of a long list (police, zoning, budget) of problems we are having. Council and mayor, we do not come to the meetings and discuss these issues because YOU do not listen!!
PS. I am amazed at the amount of tickets these cops are giving! Your chief's quote system is up and running. And I notice when the cops are not writing, they are parked in parking lots talking to each other.
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observer | 12:17 p.m. Sept. 24, 2008
Cottonwood Heights cannot even control the flow of traffic on the canyon 7/11 intersection now. With increased traffic and the speed of traffic at that location it is only a matter of time before a true tragedy occurs. When groups of citizens organize and express concern in Cottonwood Heigthts they are wasting their time. Court intervention is the only thing that can control the city council who now has helped create their own school district and police force and now thier own hotels. Citizens will have to express themselves at the voting booth.
Cody | 12:52 p.m. Sept. 24, 2008
The posts show there will always be malcontents that will complain about everything the city does, Considering that the last city election the city concil members ran unapposed, I assume the Vast majority of City resident (Those actually living in the city limits) are happy this the city council and mayor. And I live, and work by the questioned propery, and I have no problem with a hotel.
The Kingdom Continues | 1:37 p.m. Sept. 24, 2008
Hmmm...their own school district, their own police force, their own hotel chains, what's next? A soccer stadium? How about a new mayor!
Anonymous | 2:04 p.m. Sept. 24, 2008
I disagree, Cody. This is not at all what "the posts show". The posts show there are people who are concerned about the lack of active listening exhibited by the City Council. Running unopposed doesn't mean that everyone is happy with the current mayor and council. I'm a bit confused by that logic. I also live by the property and I have a huge problem with it. Your attempt to disenfranchise the dissenting comments simply doesn't fly.
Cody | 2:32 p.m. Sept. 24, 2008
They are onlu not listening because they diasagree with you. I'm sure they got plenty of positive feedback for the change, or the vote would not have been unanamous. Unanamous votes usually meen the people are not as bent out of shap about this as some people are, Most of whom, probably live no were near the area.
Quality of life not important | 3:31 p.m. Sept. 24, 2008
The city council is not concerned with quality of life issues they just want more tax revenue.
Steve - Re: Observer | 4:25 p.m. Sept. 24, 2008
Cottonwood Heights (I live there) hasn't created it's own school district. It and other neighboring cities are part of the new district (Midvale, Sandy, and a couple others).

And what's wrong with a city wanting and creating it's own police force? Or hotels for that matter?? Most cities have both.

You're right that we who live in the city will have to express ourselves at the voting booth... I'll be voting to re-elect Mayor Cullimore and the councilman (Thomas) who represents my area.

To others:

This city council doesn't ignore everyone's wishes. I know of at least one issue they've been in line with the public demand on, keeping the Mountview Elementary property public and open space (most likely a park). But now that we're not part of Jordan District anymore I'm curious to see if instead they'll re-open the school (I would love it if they did).

But technically EVERY city council is always going to be ignoring someone's issue/wishes. No matter the issue there's always an opposing side, a side that doesn't win out and thus feels slighted and then gripes that they're ignored.

I see no problem with their decision on this current matter.
Reality Check | 4:57 p.m. Sept. 24, 2008
"do something about the gravel pit eye-sore" as if the city council can unilaterally usurp all private property rights of the owner(s), kick them out of town and do whatever they want?

"never listen to the citizens" - then where are the three office buildings just up the street? Oh wait, they won't exist 'cause the city managed to get a grant to buy the land for open space preservation.

Ron, sour grapes on your part is no reason to fan inaccurate stereotypes and lies. Maybe ya oughtta call Russo ask...! I also seem to remember reading about a prestigious budget award.

UDOT actually controls the traffic at the intersection mentioned...

Cody: a breath of fresh reasonable air...at least someone get's it.

I knew the developer of the Racquet Club. In 1976 the residents complained about how much it would ruin their nice neighborhood. Now they say how much they miss it. They didn't want a hotel then, but apparently don't mind the dozens of condos (now short-term ski rentals) that did get built? They want homes/residential - but not the zoning that allows for them/it.
re; steve . Timekeeper | 5:17 p.m. Sept. 24, 2008
Your are right that the council will not make everyone happy. My problem is that on big issues like the police dept, they ignore the majority of citizens. I do not always go to council meeting but am in contact with my councilman. This decision, as with some recent ones, is a bad one. The connections between the mayor, council and the developer needs a closer look. And Mark Crocketts presents in the city's business is something to watch. He is alittle too close to our mayor. Does anyone know why?
Ron | 11:00 p.m. Sept. 24, 2008
Reality check; these are not lies! As for any awards, I will wait until next year and see what falls out of the tree. I wonder what kind of award they will give Russo then? The door?
David O | 11:07 p.m. Sept. 24, 2008
The Mayor is awesome.

Sincerely,

Developers
DR Don | 11:50 p.m. Sept. 24, 2008
Citizens always have the option of initiating a recall petition if they are unhappy with their government. Sufficient signatures and there is a recall election.
Reality Check 2 | 10:37 a.m. Sept. 25, 2008
"Council and mayor, we do not come to the meetings and discuss these issues because YOU do not listen" - perfect example of a self-fulfilling prophesy. If we don't go, don't speak up, then of course we can't be heard. My experience with the council is vastly different than yours, Ron. But then I actually act, ask, and converse.

As to the service the cops are providing - it's sure nice to actually see one on the street. That got more and more rare the last few months. I don't imagine they're pulling people over without cause. If you don't want a ticket, drive responsibly & make sure your registration is up to date. The fallacy of "lots of tickets=lots of city revenue" is only held by those who don't understand how little the city actually receives (<25% if I remember correctly...). Most goes straight to the great state of Utah. In order to fund the police on ticket revenue that'd be about 140,000 tickets per day! We'd need 6000 cops on the street (& really bad drivers); but then we'd have to pay the extra cops too (which would take even MORE tickets to fund - LOL).
RE: Cody | 1:39 p.m. Sept. 25, 2008
The last election was held BEFORE the city voted to start a P.D. and shoved the School District upon us. The P.D. vote was supposed to be in September but was pushed back to after the election.

And if you read the article, the vast majority were against this vote but they did it anyway.

By the way, I bet if you would research, their vote on everything is unanimous. I have never seen any vote there that isn't. That is because they decide behind closed doors what they are going to do in the open public meeting. Cullimore wears the bell and the sheep just follow in line.
Distorted Reality? | 1:57 p.m. Sept. 25, 2008
Reality Check 2: It is quite clear from the history of the council they do not listen. Residents in this area have been contacting council and mayor since this plan became known. We came to the meeting and voiced our opinion and were ignored. The council had decided prior to us speaking how they were going to vote. It certainly looks to me like they make up their minds collectively in secret and the public meeting and vote is a sham.

As far as the tickets go, you play pretty loose with your numbers. If the 25% you quote (without any justification as though you really know) is correct, it would bring substantial revenue to the city.

Wiggum promised the city he would write 500 tickets per month. If the average ticket is $100, that would be $12,500 per month- revenue straight into the pockets of Quimby and the council. That will go a long way toward paying the salary of their school resource officer who was hired outside the hiring process and spends little time at the school.
Dr Don | 2:23 p.m. Sept. 25, 2008
Thats not going to happen, because most residents are happy with the city council and mayor.
Who's running this circus | 2:50 p.m. Sept. 25, 2008
Crockett and Cullimore are both pawns in the local republican gestapo. The leaders are Dolan and Curtis and the rest 'are just following orders.' Cullimore and Greg Curtis are related also.

That is why Crockett stays so close to the mayor and city government. They want to be sure it is run the way the powers want it to be.
Real Reality | 6:30 p.m. Sept. 25, 2008
I just noticed that cullimore's company stock is rock bottom (peeny stock) and now the city is rock bottom. If the shoe fits.....the citizens of the heights are in trouble.
Reeling reality | 8:26 p.m. Sept. 25, 2008
Sad thing is- as misguided and disingenuine as he is, he is the only one in that city government with any sense. And he wastes it on his little schemes and political games.

And it isn't his company, its his daddy's.

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