Reader comments: Bramble says he requested staff memo
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provo | 10:42 a.m. Oct. 16, 2008
More evidence that citizens of Bramble's district need to say goodbye to him and vote in a respected, capable, and ethical candidate, RaDene Hatfield.
Terrance | 4:00 p.m. Oct. 16, 2008
Don't be fooled by a pretty face- RaDene craves the spotlight, has an agenda that does not match most of the constiuants in the district and only has band mom amd Mary Kay experience
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Commoner | 7:54 p.m. Oct. 16, 2008
To Prospero, if you're going to play a government lawyer, then at least get it right.
A legislator can ask for analysis on a public issue, such as vouchers. Its part of the job. Its not ethical misconduct simply because its used in support of a public policy issue position that you don't agree with.
Once the document exists, and is made public, anyone can use it. IAfter all, it belongs to the public. The only reason you think it was a misuse is because it opposed your position. Government documents were equally used by voucher opponents, but you're not accusing them of misconduct, are you!
And you're also wrong on legislative requests under GRAMA, first of all, the provision you are referring to applies to bill requests, not memo requests made on the floor of the Senate, and even then it is only protected if the sponsor asks.
Don't feel bad though that you don't understand the law and don't have your facts straight. You can always run for the legislature, as a Democrat!
A legislator can ask for analysis on a public issue, such as vouchers. Its part of the job. Its not ethical misconduct simply because its used in support of a public policy issue position that you don't agree with.
Once the document exists, and is made public, anyone can use it. IAfter all, it belongs to the public. The only reason you think it was a misuse is because it opposed your position. Government documents were equally used by voucher opponents, but you're not accusing them of misconduct, are you!
And you're also wrong on legislative requests under GRAMA, first of all, the provision you are referring to applies to bill requests, not memo requests made on the floor of the Senate, and even then it is only protected if the sponsor asks.
Don't feel bad though that you don't understand the law and don't have your facts straight. You can always run for the legislature, as a Democrat!
provo | 9:59 p.m. Oct. 16, 2008
Dear Terrance,
Your warning is not only unfounded, it is demeaning. No doubt you take your tactics from Bramble's playbook. Talk to people who know both candidates. Compare platforms side by side. Study their histories. I did, and the choice is clear.
Your warning is not only unfounded, it is demeaning. No doubt you take your tactics from Bramble's playbook. Talk to people who know both candidates. Compare platforms side by side. Study their histories. I did, and the choice is clear.
legislators or lobbyists? | 11:24 p.m. Oct. 19, 2008
When the legislators went around the state with their PIC video, does that mean that our legislators became lobbyists? Isn't this NOT what legislators are supposed to do? They should represent, not lobby the people.
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Of course, as usual, the Republican leadership's sound bites are highly misleading. So what if it was Bramble who requested new numbers from the fiscal analyst. Hughes's PIC used them unethically in the voucher campaign. Hughes is registered as the responsible officer for the PIC. His face is all over the video. He had to know that the fiscal analyst's good name was being used for partisan purposes, yet did nothing to stop it. Just because Der Fuehrer didn't turn the switch on the gas, doesn't mean he's not morally responsible for those who died in the chamber.
And, Bramble, before you accuse the attorneys who drafted the complaint, why don't you do your own homework? GRAMA makes legislative requests to the the fiscal analyst "protected records" and therefore unreachable by the public.