@Mayem Mike--One could argue, then, that people who are not voting for Romney
because of his religion are making that decision because he does NOT share their
values. It still goes both ways, whether you call it "because he is
Mormon" or "because he shares my values," you are voting for him
because of what you believe is important to him as a person, which is fine. But
it's not bigotry to not vote for a candidate because of his religion--it just
means that you don't want someone running the country who subscribes to a
particular ideology. You're not saying he shouldn't be allowed to run for
presidency or own land--just that you don't want someone who views the universe
a certain way making very important decisions for your country.
"Secondly 1/2 of all Mormons could be estimated to be Democrat in Nevada as
Nevada elected a Democrat to the Senate and voted for President Obama"That's just false. Nevada is 11% LDS but the entrance poll has 26% of
republican caucus voters LDS. A Pew poll found that less than 20% of LDS members
alt134:Please reread my comment as that is not exactly what I said.
First, 91% is the tally without Clark County which does not report until 10 PM
Eastern Time. That county represents 68% of the Nevada vote. Secondly 1/2 of all
Mormons could be estimated to be Democrat in Nevada as Nevada elected a Democrat
to the Senate and voted for President Obama. So 91% of all the Mormon's did not
vote for Mitt Romney. Thank You.
@don17"Romney will receive less than two thirds of the Mormon vote in
the Republican primaries"Romney won 91% of the LDS vote
according to the Nevada entrance polling.
@A1994In 2008 Romney won 95% of the Nevada LDS vote despite having three
opponents (and he didn't win the nomination so it's not like he was really
really really good). That is not possible without some significant portion of
them using Mormonism as the deciding factor. Heck, Romney only barely cleared
50% in the Massachusetts primary.
don17Temecula, CATo clear up some of your misconception of
me:1. I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day
Saints. I have been a member all of my life as has my family back to the
beginning of the church.2. I was born and raised in Arizona, U.S.A.,
a citizen of the country. I hold dual citizenship with Australia.I
respect your views and your right to vote for Mitt Romney, in turn I expect the
same right of respect of my opinion, weather you agree with it or not.To
Call me âUninformed!â is just sad since you do not know me or
anything about me. We can all read the same thing or see a picture and see it
totally different, obviously I see Mitt Romney totally differently than you.I have been involved in politics since my teenage years and that was a
long time ago. I study in depth every candidate that runs for President of the
U.S.A. regardless of where I might be living in the world because the President
affects me and my families life as well as the rest of the world.I
do not hate Mitt Romney, I simply do not think he is right for the Presidency.
Right now I have no idea who I might vote for in Nov., that is a long way off.
I do not belong to any political party, I gave that up a long time ago and vote
only for the candidate that meets my standards regardless of party. So please
think twice before you call me âUninformed!â
Perhaps Mitt will run away with this but...unless he can convince other conserva
blocs to support him and then rally Indies, Reagan Dems, Libertarians(after Ron
loses), and TEAS, Mitt will not have enough fire power to overcome the Blue
state radical, progressive, unions and Barry states. I hope for the RNC's sake
and mine, that if Mitt is the nominee , he spends lots of time mending fences
with the above groups to strike a fatal blow at the socialist coalitions which
will try to scam voters once again in Nov. I still love Newt, but frankly,
now,anybody but the worse Prez in my 73 years.
Why should someone that did not make foolish choices fund someone that did. In
any case it has to be done voluntarily not forced. You have more so I can take.
No matter how poor one person is and rich another is we cannot force someone to
be charitable with another persons property.
If it's OK for blacks to vote for Obama because he's black, then it's OK for
Mormons to vote for Romney because he's Mormon. Enough said.At
least someone's religion tells us something about what they think and believe
and provides some basis by which we can evaluate their judgment, unlike race.
The church has nothing to do with who I vote for, but if we could find someone
who would budget like the LDS church, I'd for vote for them.The
church is not in debt, and the country shouldn't be either. Hope Romney is the
one to get us out of the red.
When Newt won the South Carolina primary, the leftists on this board mocked the
conservatives for ditching their 'family values' in favor of the political gain.
Now, when Mormons vote overwhelmingly for a Mormon candidate, the left says
it's ONLY because he's Mormon. Could it be because the guy is the most
qualified for the job and is a shining example of how a leader ought to live his
"President Obama received 98 % of the African-American/Black vote, Romney
will receive less than two thirds of the Mormon vote in the Republican
primaries"Kerry got over 90% of the black vote, maybe black
people just don't like Republican candidates. Let's compare primaries since
Romney's never run in a general in a state with a large LDS electorate. Obama got 77% of the clear black majority DC democratic primary vote
against Clinton. Romney got 89% of the LDS majority Utah republican primary vote
against 3 other candidates (McCain Huckabee Paul) and didn't end up being the
nominee so it's not like he was destroying people everywhere. Obama got about
60% in Illinois. Romney got barely over 50% in Massachusetts.So both
have advantages, Romney had the bigger one and as for the general... the idea of
40% of LDS members voting Democratic is laughable... after all Obama couldn't
even scrape 40% overall in Utah including the non-LDS vote.
SMLG: 1.Every loop hole is a openly broad statement! He used the
established tax plan to pay his taxes just like any other person who invests or
sees investing as a positive tool of capitalism. No he did not break the law.
2. Mitt Romney was not in a Federally Elected position that would
allow him to change the law. Ending investments because some want it will not
help the U.S. economy it with all the other thousands of regulations added the
last three years will cause the economy to suffer.the CBO confirms this time and
time again with additional; regulations are implimented.3. President
Obama received 98 % of the African-American/Black vote, Romney will receive less
than two thirds of the Mormon vote in the Republican primaries and about 40
percent of the Mormon population votes for Democrat candidates so your claim is
not as valid as it may seem.4. Are you an expert of Romney' business
practices or ethics? Are you an expert in American Economic Policy and
Investment Policy? Without studying actually his policy or ethics how can you
even come to a conclusion that is negative? Or is it an opinion based on what
you have heard? Then it would be just like the Mormon's you claim vote just
because of religion: Uninformed!5. I can assure you I know the
candidates and I choose Mitt Romney!
It is sad that Mormons are voting for Rpmney because he is also a Mormon. As in
most campaigns the vast majority of those voting DO NOT bother to do any indepth
study of the candidtes, they follow there favorite TV guy/gal or because the
candidate is the same religion, has the same back ground, went to the same
school or they like the color of his tie.I personally think Mitt Romney's
work ethics and business practices stink. No, he has done nothing illegal but
he has found every loop hole to enrich himself instead of working to close those
loop holes to make it a level playing field for everyone.
Irritabull: Actually you are wrong! Congressman Paul is in Colorado
and his campaign manager confirmed that this morning on multiple news networks!
So he is not in Nevada like I mentioned! Thank You! Itsjstmeagain: You say Mitt Romney has not said anything regarding
the Economy and such. I am sorry but you are incorrect. Mitt Romney put out a 59
point plan months ago that was written into a number of promenient newspaper
outlets and has been repeatedly quoted on for many months. He has a Financial
plan you are looking for an an Energy plan as well.
Don 17 says Ron Paul is not in Nevada, that is wrong Don. He is very well
represented in Nevada and he went directly to Nevada after the Florida vote. He
won the caucaus there in08 and the crooked Republican party walked out and
closed the caucaus because they did not want to yield to the will of the people,
if you recall.
Mitt Romney is a decent guy,but he is not the best candidate for the presidency.
He has tobe far better then Newt (named after a reptile) Gingrich or Rick
Insanitorium. Ron Paul isthe Best man for this nation.When he gets in
(were that to happen) the Federal Government would shrink from its present
communistic/socialistic size to an affordable size. The young men would not have
their lives put at risk by illegal wars.The schools would once again be locally
controlled and the curriculum to arm them for the real world would be theorder of the day.Common sense would be imposed upon the epa and no longer
would we destroy the US timber business for a single specie of bird or bug as
was done with the spotted owl.Fema would be disbanded,the NDAA would be
repealed. Freedom would replace the police statethat has been built up by
the last two administrations.Our children would have a much better future with a
Ron Paul administration.Sticking together for your religion is nicebut
voting for the man that will deliver a much better,secure life for our progeny
is evenmore important.Sound money, high ethical standards,and individual
freedom is the best of all worlds. So I endorse Ron Paul and hope you will
diligently study what he stands for.
" I cannot support him and the political philosophy of the Democrats and
Obama that, somehow, people who earn more should be required to fund
entitlements for the "poor" and try to equalize their financial
standing with the rich." Where in the world do you folks come up with this
stuff..show me once where the Democrats or the President personally has said
that everyone in the country should have the same income..or that the poor
should have anything other than a saftey net.Who but those who earn
more will fund temporary help for a single mother with welfare and
medicaid..what you say makes no sense.
And Santorum, Paul and Gingrich are not even still in Nevada? They quit state
campaign after state campaign and leave early but think they can win? Fox News
the Gingrich network continues to blindly support him and keeps trotting out
people saying he can win once the campaign season gets to Super Tuesday. How is
that if he loses every state up to that point which the polling continues to
suggest. Before Super Tuesday CO,MN,MO,MA,AZ,MI,Guam,and WA. All before the big
day. Most if not all these states were won by Mitt Romney in 2008. Momentum
speaks, but then again Gingrich could maybe win OK and Tenn on Super Tuesday,
and probably Georgia his home state. But, what about AK,ND,Mass,WY, which Romney
won before as well as Virginia where Gingrich failed to get on the ballot even
after suing the party in Virginia? That leaves OH,VT,and ID possibly to decide.
Where is FOX New's big Gingrich win? It's just not there. Hype the Hothead.
Their analysis is only driven to drive ratings! And again how long can a
contested primary go when everyone but Mitt skips a state or walks away a
But just what does he stand for? I got he's for big banks, industry and rich
people. Start talking about the economy, jobs, debt, immigration. Just what
will you do? Newt threw out some ideas, like having poor school kids moonlight
as janitors, but nothing from Romney.There is more to winning that
Mitt will win Nevada with far more support from non Mormons, the same way non
Mormons support Prince Harry. Go Mitt!
Finally, here's a short example of how a personal choice may affect our
employment: One commentator (Bill O'Reilly) noted that if you insist on having a
tattoo on your face or neck, don't even think about applying for a job with IBM
or other employer with a more conservative view of how employees should look. In
short, your right to "self-expression" may have financial
To Pragmatic: No, a lot of us Mormons don't support Romney because he's Mormon,
but because he shares our VALUES. I heard Harry Reid speak at a BYU Forum, and
am convinced he loves the Lord and is a "good" Mormon. However, I
cannot support him and the political philosophy of the Democrats and Obama that,
somehow, people who earn more should be required to fund entitlements for the
"poor" and try to equalize their financial standing with the rich.
It's one thing to temporarily aid a single mother or other disadvantaged person
with Medicaid or unemployment benefits, but quite another to perpetually help
those who feel "entitled" to benefits without working or engaging in
some sort of personal improvement. Personal responsibility requires that if we
cannot earn an adequate living, we might want to examine our personal choices
(level of education, willingness to work two jobs, trying to make ourselves more
valuable to an employer, etc.) and make adjustments.
Unfortunately, I think too many "news" articles make it sound like
Romney has nothing but his religious affiliation to carry him, and that it
really IS all about a person's ecclesiastical membership. I really think that's
why he had such a poor showing in South Carolina; too many of those voters said
they'd support Gingrich despite his indiscretions and baggage, simply because he
was after all a good 'ole boy from Georgia, and not some Mormon yankee.
Mormons complain about evangelicals because they are so close minded and don't
support mormon's. While at the same time, Mormon's support their own because
they are Mormon! There is no difference guys! Mormons are guilty if they
support Romney primarily because he is Mormon. Let's be consistent here and
less harsh on others.
To put LDS political leanings in perspective vis-a-vis their support for Romney,
it would be interesting to see how many Latter-day Saints support Harry Reid (a
low number, no doubt). I believe Romney is popular due to his leadership
abilities and conservative principles, not because of his faith.
Interesting I would never vote for Harry Reid thought we share the same
religion. When Larry EchoHawk was running for Idaho Governer some of his
supporters thought his religion cost him. Republican sweeps cost him. On my
mission I mentioned I was from Idaho and someone that played ball at BYU with
EchoHawk said LDS people turned on him. I didn't mention I was one that
campaigned for his opponent.
Always wondered why so many members live in nevada. Maybe this is the