1. This is nothing more or less than desperation by Obama. Trying to shore up
his liberal base. Amnesty isn't going to wash with independent voters.2. Obama seems to forget he is required to work WITH congress and get their
approval. Obama sees the constitution and congress as road blocks to his
agenda.3. It is interesting to note that every time Obama's poll
numbers start to lag he creates some controversy or he tries to give away the
store to buy votes. The man is a boat with no rudder - an empty suit with no
spine. Everything - and I mean everything - is politically motivated to buy
votes. The man is as shallow as a mud puddle.
Yes yes yes our great and predictable campaigner n chief announces this
immigration change (bypassing congress of course) just before the election. This
character never changes and will do ANYTHING to steal votes. Yes it's all
about the election with Barack - never about governing. What a disgrace to
America this man is.
my two cents worth and 1.cee,I think illegal immigration morphs in a
heated debate because a lot of legal immigrants i talk to and also some on this
thread express frustration with giving a free pass to illegal immigrants when
they had to go through the rigors of legally becoming a citizen. And frankly, I
tend to agree with them. Its interesting how Obama preaches fairness, but this
is not fair to those waiting outside the US to become a citizen.
BO could also represent "Borin Orrin" or Butch Otter (the Idaho
governor). Neither passes the respect test.
Monday thru Friday-no BO. Interesting.Your employer's own
stated policy includes the following."Treat other readers
(substitute the word persons for readers) as you would if you were speaking to
them from a microphone, looking them in the eyes, then passing the microphone
cordially to the next contributor."
Looks like we are splitting again down into two factions: The ME group and the
WE group. The ME group hates that any of their taxes go to help
people. Of course they are the first to want something for themselves--like
Medicare, free roads, free fire and police coverage, freedom to hate, etc. The
radicals in the ME group want to throw out the government--as if that will open
up the free things.The WE group cares about his/her community, the
people around him/her and realizes that it takes some sharing of his money to
pay for amenities. The WE group wants to find solutions to help the whole. What group do you belong in when you get mad at helping young Mexicans
get an education?
Why does this issue of Illegal Immigration seem to morph to hate talk about
Latinos in general? Oh that's right, Latinos (Mexicans in
particular), blacks, Muslims, Arabs, etc. are all in the category of
"OTHER" and we don't want to be liking them because they are
different than US, now do we? Of course, that is the ridiculous
(and sometimes malicious) way of looking at God's children. Can
we just get along? What's wrong with helping out those who need it?
What's wrong with helping those who are here illegally where they had no
choice in being here in the first place. Is that what good Christians like us
RE: atl134Rubio proposed this?Did he propose doing an
end round the constitution like Obama?or using constitutional means
to deal with it?That is the issue here.Doing things the
constitutional way or becoming a dictator and just doing whatever Obama wants to
do. It you allow the constitution to be trodden over then you are
giving the next president the same power, and that president may be a from
different political party. In other words are willing to give Romney the same
power? Because he will inherit it.
atl134,I hadn't heard Rubio proposing this.Blacks should
be up in arms - just goes to show how much BO and the dems take the black vote
for granted. Unemployment among black teens is over 50%, and now BO is giving
illegal teens work permits. When will blacks wake up and recognize the dems for
what they are - overseers?
Agreed, Fitness Freak, I am Hispanic and a legal immigrant, and I do not support
any form of amnesty for illegal aliens. I have one simple question for all those
who support Obama's decision: how in the world do you expect future
immigrants to come legally when our own government shows this blatant disregard
for our immigration laws under the excuse of 'compassion'? Children
should not be punished for their parent's crimes, but they should not be
Sounds like a generous thing to do, but he went about it in the wrong way. My
hope is that Romney will be president and iron out the kinks of this issue. Just
one more thing Romney would have to change and get done correctly because Obama
has taken shortcut after shortcut in doing the right thing to get votes.
Hopefully Romney will take the few good ideas obama has used and put them into
practical long term use, rather than do more short term political stints.
I made a mistake. During the 2008 campaign Obama said he was going to lower the
unemployment rate.I thought it was for the people of our country.We've been betrayed by our leaders with a leaking border, and soon
we'll all have a level playing field where everyone will have an equal shot
for poverty. It's happening folks.I don't know why people
crave this, but Obama may win re-election, and we'll become another Cuba.
It's just an executive order that can, and probably will, be rescinded when
the next president comes around. Could this then actually end up being harmful
for the people who come out to the government as being illegal? Who's to
say this won't come back to haunt them in the future? I like
the idea of the law, but Congress needs to get its act together and actually do
something. Illegals brought here as children and who've been exemplary
citizens shouldn't be punished for something that was beyond their control.
Ten years they've been debating this and nothing. What a shame.
Conservatives didn't seem to have much of a problem when it was VP
frontrunner Marco Rubio proposing basically this.
"In the past two weeks, undocumented students have staged protests at Obama
campaign offices in Charlotte, N.C., Denver and Oakland, Calif."Pandering? NO! I guess he will support any minority that yells loud
enough.If everyone knew they were undocumented, why didn't ICE
swoop in and raid these protests? Where are MY rights? As a
50-year old, tax-paying, law abiding white male citizen, I have become so
marginalized as to be irrelevant, and it sickens me. How can I pursue happiness
when I have to support illegal aliens, illegal activities, insurance fraud, tax
fraud and every other drain on society that is a direct result of the illegal
immigration morass?Oh yeah..... election year....So you
al don't think I'm some bigoted jerk - I love the Mexican people,
speak fluent Spanish and travel to Mexico for work every month. I encourage
legal immigration, but deplore law-breaking leeching.
I think endoferror has the big picture.The autocratic move of President
Obama is frightening in that it leaves us not knowing what he might do next that
would further bypass the constitution. Obama care follows the same pattern when
you see that it would require all citizens to purchase it or be subject to
severe fines.I want a kinder more merciful immigration law as much as any
one I know. But not at the expense of trampling the constitution.Because
it only gets easier and easier, and people will cry out less and less and we
become convinced that there is nothing we can do about it.This
presidential election is truly becoming a vote for America and the constitution.
A vote for Christian lifestyles and a vote for an economy that is based on less
government, less debt and less bailouts.
Baby steps to November. Baby steps to November.
Its a sad day for LEGAL American citizens. That includes LEGAL hispanic
voters.Most legal hispanic voters don't want to support the
freeloaders any more than the rest of us.Those of us who follow the
illegal immigration issue pretty much expected something like this from the
Obama administration, but we thought it would be closer to the election.The NEXT thing we need to know is if Romney will reverse this action his
first day in office?
This is an Obama campaign stunt.Read the fine print. What it says is that
immigration judges have discretionary latitude to forestall deportation and
grant temporary work permits to teens and young adults who have grown up here
and would suffer hardship if deported.Guess what? The BIA judges already
have that latitude. We had a case like that in the news recently. But the two
year reprieve expired and they were facing deportation.Obama has actually
suggested limiting that latitude with conditions about age and scholastic
status.To be sure, he wants to poke the camel's nose further under
the tent. These brown-eyed high school students are just good poster children
for amnesty.But he's offered nothing of substance here.Romney
was a fool to respond in kind. He should have simply called it a political
ploy, shamed Obama for using children as human shields and moved back to talking
about the lousy economy.
I find it interesting that some are willing to support the president when he
bypasses Congress and implements laws they agree with such as this one. However,
what will they think when he (or his successor) uses that same power to
implement laws to which they disagree? If we allow THIS president to make his
own laws then we must be prepared for ALL future presidents to do the same. Do
we really want to have a King or Dictator ruling over us?The
Constitution is becoming irrelevant because WE THE PEOPLE are allowing it to
happen. If we do not stop this we will someday have no say in how we are
governed. Instead of ours being a "Government of the People" we will
instead become the "People of the Government."
Obama's Amnesty Is Unconstitutional, Disaster for Unemployed. If you
against any kind of Amnesty, go to this website and register.Google this:
NUMBERSUSA. Once you are registered, go to the "action board"
It's just too bad that Obama is doing this on the election year. You
shouldn't worry about the latino votes when they cannot even vote for him.
The only way to vote is being a citizen. After being a permanent resident for
the last 6 years I finally became a U.S citizen last year. And my vote goes to
John C. C.Maybe because it's illegal. Since when does the
President have the authority to just pass a law without a vote? This whole
thing is unconstitutional. There are boundaries and laws that even this rock
star needs to obey. Why does congress not do anything about this?
This is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Vote!
Obama is in full panic mode. He's not keeping his powder dry until the
fall. He is not. Why? Because people are paying attention. And we don't
like what we're seeing or what we're getting from Obama. First the
churches, then women, then Bain Capital, then gays and now this. They're
just throwing everything up against the wall. They are looking at ways to grant
amnesty en masse without legislation. Arizona Governor Jan Brewer and Sheriff
Joe Arpaio joined Arizona talk show host Mike Broomhead today in two separate
segments to discuss the President's decision to selectively enforce
immigration law a decision which Brewer said has the status of law even though
it actively contradicts the law. Obama and presumptive GOP nominee Mitt Romney
offered a clear preview of the type of campaigns they intend to run against each
other. And they made them in defiance of a week of protests from influential
voices in their own parties who urged them both to offer voters forward-thinking
solutions.That's why the GOP political party can't seem to
pull it together.They are "lost in space" somewhere out
This is a great move. I'm sad my Republican Party is opposing it.
I probably agree with the outcome of Obama's order but I can't agree
with how it was done and it is obviously just pandering for votes. He is such a
weak leader.Illegals are here. Some have been here all their lives. They
are not just going to go away. Leaving them in illegal status creates an
underclass. We need to find a way to make them productive and legal.It is
a complicated and difficult issue. We either need to kick them out or dry up
their ability to function and live here so they go back on their own OR we need
to give then a way to be legal.I personally don't like the idea of
mass deportations but I can understand it. Unless you secure the borders they
will just come back. Securing the border is not that easy. And I don't
really want to live in a country where people are hunted down in mass by police.
I believe in a melting pot. Speak English, integrate, work hard and I have no
problem with immigrants. We need permanent policies to promote these things.
The immigration "problem " is solved just as soon as our neighbors to
the south allow the same kind of individual and economic rights as guaranteed to
the citizens of the US by our Constituiion.Joseph Smith prophesied
that all of north and south america would some day be called Zion, or in other
words would have the US constitution, which he referred to as a heavenly banner,
reign throughout the western hemisphere.
just another desperate attempt to divert attention from his failed policy.
I'm one of many who desperately hope we can soon say goodbye to the worst
president in the history of the country. Many were skeptical when he was the
most liberal member of congress and nobody really knew much about him other than
that. But now, after 3 1/2 years of sheer foolishness, abuse of office and
authority, and seemingly doing everything in his power to embarrass and diminish
the country, it's citizens, it's workers, and it's taxpayers, it
doesn't take a mental giant to figure out that this is one liability we
simply can't afford to keep. This year we'll find out just how
qualified the voters are as well.
I've been waiting for a long time to see someone begin to fix the
immigration problem. Too bad my political party can't seem to pull it
While I agree with this narrow policy decision, it is a drop in the ocean of
solving our larger immigration policy problems. Sadly the timing of Obama's
announcement makes it clear that his real motive is political. He could have
addressed this problem at any time during his presidency. Real support for
immigration reform would have meant proposing a comprehensive policy then
exercising presidential leadership to push it through congress. On the very
real issues that face us today- Budget deficits, Social Security and Medicare
reform, Immigration policy, Economic recovery and job creation- Obama has failed
to propose any real plan and instead substituted blame shifting, diversion, and
crass political gimmickry. We desperately need real leadership not political
While it would have been better had Congress done something to help those who
came here aas children and through no fault of their own, are here illegally
(and typical of Congress - did nothing), right now this seems to represent one
of the best examples I have seen in a long time of Justice tempered by Mercy.
Perhaps we could all learn how to apply this principle in our own lives.
Election year politics. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Seriously, why bother electing all those superfluous congress people? I love the
idea of President Obama changing and creating laws on the spot. It saves time
and avoids all that icky democracy junk.Who is for him fixing the
22nd amendment? I, for one!
Obama is part of the problem. We got in this mess (and many others) because the
government can't say "No."Of course, we have plenty of jobs
to go around so it shouldn't be too bad, right? Oh wait, we've got a
huge unemployed teen problem and college grads who can't find work.
He'd better do something for voters. He's leaked sensitive national
security items, has an attorney general who thinks he is above the law, forced a
health care law that nobody likes, has driven the work force into the ground, he
has hurt every segement of america, screamed against big corporations but then
bails them out etc. The Obama ship in sinking fast. I'm just wondering why
he didn't do something like this 4 years ago. It's not like it's
a new problem.
Reality is becoming a place to which the GOP more and more cannot go.