LDS Lib states, "Leave it to the Holier-than-thou, judgemental Utah Mormons
to be the 1st in line for the public stoning..."Are you upset
that some beat you to the punch? Come on, you are the best at what you are
denouncing.@mightymite: don't read the articles if you
don't like them. Simple.Nebraska says, "Yet, it is true
that she isn't living the life of what one expects of a member of the
Church either." And you know this how?@Shazandra: it's
clear you have an axe to grind and don't follow your own admonition of
treating others the way you would like to be treated. You quit the LDS church.
Great, we get it. Move on. Go live your life to the fullest. Go be all that you
can be in your new LDS-free world. Set up a blog and tell us all about the
wonderful things going on in your life. Be positive, optimistic and a stalwart
example of what you now believe. Convince others through your actions and words
that you are to be emulated.
To Just-A-Fan:This article is in the "Faith" section, not on the
front page headlines. If you are so uninterested in this type of article, why
are you reading the "Faith" section?As for the article itself, I
am glad to see that everyone involved is trying to put their own honest beliefs
and status out there, without sugar-coating, OR bashing. Thanks.
You can't have a career in Hollywood without selling out your standards.
There is some problems with some of the comments pertaining to Ms Hough. Some
appear to be totally judgemental and inappropiate and others that state she is
doing nothing wrong. Both are wrong in all accounts. She didn't say
anything wrong about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and is in
fact talking great praise of what she has been taught. Yet, it is true that she
isn't living the life of what one expects of a member of the Church
either.Her happiness in this life is only a small amount of the
eternities. What may be making one happy in this life may not be what is
necessary to make them happy in the world to come. Some day all of us will be
judged as to how we lived, the choices we made and who we had contact with. I
believe that Cats and others had this in mind and are right to pray that she may
change her life to meet the high standards set by JESUS CHRIST.The
Strength of Youth is not just for those age 12-18 but for everyone. We should
all be worthy of that standard.
I think that Jose Guadalupe Hernandez is probably one of the finest examples of
an LDS celebrity that stays grounded and sets a great example. Even though Jose
is the top basketball player in Mexico, he remains humble. I don't know
anything about the Hough lady. I do know Charlie Hough threw an excellent
We can always hope for a substantive article on LDS celebs and public figures
that goes deeper than lifestyle. The public is fully aware of our
"clean" and ethical living. Donnie and Marie were great ambassadors in
that area. There wasn't much off with the Broadway play either. In fact,
South Park's LDS montage was actually true to many LDS characterizations,
flattering or not.What is unfortunate are the thin-skinned ones who
refuse to look at the whole of Mormon life, who think a name change will help.
Putting lipstick on every Mormon in public life won't do it either.
It's the Emperor's Clothes and the bitter whining at "the
haters" isn't working either. Maybe getting out of the Utah mentality
we all experienced at BYU will help, I don't know. Perhaps if
you treated ex-Mormons like you'd like to be treated, you'd get a
break. But you throw us under the bus and we know all sides of the reality.
How about more transparency and dialogue to start with? Like getting a former
Mormon post that is civil but truthful? Ask us why we left Perfectville.
Leave it to the Holier-than-thou, judgemental Utah Mormons to be the 1st in line
for the public stoning...Ms. Hough said nothing negative,
derogatory, or hurtful toward the LDS church or anyone in it -- in fact,
she had nothinng but praise....and yet here we see the Latter-Day Pharisees at
MoJules - I understand your story, what I was trying to point out is that
somebody leaving the church or becoming less active in the church does not make
them less of a person, or make them unhappy. There are many in the world that
get by just fine without the church, or without any church for that matter. Some
need church and that is fine. Going to church doesn't define who somebody
is as a person. Active, less-active, inactive - none of that really matters.
What matters is a persons character, and it sounds like in your daughters case
that she is a good mom like you said, and sounds like a good person all around.
So it shouldn't be a negative thing that she doesn't believe as you
do. I know that is how mormons are taught to think, but it is not right. One
persons beliefs are not another persons beliefs, even within the family.
There is a certain commenter that mentions he is getting tired of articles like
this one. Great then stop reading them and commenting on them. I for one enjoyed
Brahmabull being a mother to a child who at the age of 20 left the church and
also left her belief in God, I ended up learning a lot of things. First and
foremost, I have a great love for the LDS church and I believe in all of
it's teachings. I raised my daughter and shared these teachings with her,
as did her deceased father. I made a choice to focus on all the good things
that I see in my daughter, she is an amazing mother to a child that has needed
thinking and training from outside the box. So why can't we all do this in
relationship to Julianne Hough, if she is not totally active and reads the
comments made here, or has read comments in the past, I give her a lot of credit
for sharing her positive feelings about the church. And if she were my
daughter, I would be happy for the good things she is doing, but would still
hope that she would become active again in the church, knowing the great
blessings that it brings in our lives.
Wouldn't be a Dnews article about famous mormons without a lot of judgement
being passed down on Miss Hough. Leave her alone, she's not doing
These articles are getting tired, mormom + notoriaty does not = story. I know
there are very few mormons but the mormon does good stuff is annoying. Plus
another "contributer" or whatever the dnews passes of as journalism,
already posted this article last week.
Cats - I think that saying you hope that Julianne Hough gets back to full
activity in the church is just wrong. What happened to just hoping that they
find what makes them happy - not what you think will make them happy. And what
about being a good person? It seems people in the mormon faith are concerned
about others church activity statistics than their character. What is with that?
If being perfect was a prerequisite to be a member of the church, there would be
no one in church. I'm not perfect but I try to learnfrom my mistakes and
sometimes I really blow it. But I continue to ask for the lord for help and
guidance. I would have loved to go to the one by andy Reid. I think Hollywood
and its standards are horrid but my hats off to anyone who are lds and try the
best they can. I'd rather have my privacy and not be in the limelight. I
live in a small town and at times at work I feel like I'm under the
microscope for the few of my coworkers that know I'm lds. We can't
talk about religion at work because of the population I work with. She was
talking about religion on our lunchtime away from the clients she asked what I
was and I told her. We don't agree on religion but We respect each other
and get along just fine. Sorry about my babbling.
UtahBlueDevil,I am quite sure that being perfect is not a
requirement for being a member of the church. Were that so, it would be a
pretty empty place on Sundays. I know I wouldn't make the cut.We should all try to do and be our best. But we need to be able to accept
that no one will get it right all of the time. We feel a little more discomfort
with those of our faith who are in the spotlight yet who veer from accepted
practices. Understood. But we should welcome a nice tribute to the values the
faith teaches.Nice comments BTW.
I have no interest in Mormon celebrities, but the DesNews just eats this stuff
up. I remember when Gladys Knight was the flavor of the month. Now it's a
football coach and an actress/dancer. Next week, we can find a chef or paper boy
in Illinois. Please stop with these articles.
no doubt Julianne is not living gospel standards, but props to her for saying
something positive. She lives in a toxic Hollywood environment where saying
anything positive about the church can literally get you blacklisted, and yet
she sticks up for us. How many of you would do the same? don't count her
out - everyone walks their own journey.
Re: GeoMan, Rev Wright’s religion is a form of Liberation theology where
transcendence is neglected as well as, with Romney’s Mormonism. The only transcendent, almighty, and holy God, who cannot be approached or
seen in essence or Being, becomes immanent primarily in the God-man Jesus the
Christ, who is the incarnate(John 1:14) Second Person of the Trinity.
Christian(Catholic )theology, Christ and the Holy Spirit immanently reveal
themselves; God the Father only reveals himself immanently vicariously through
the Son and Spirit, and the Divine Nature, the Godhead is wholly transcendent
and unable to be comprehended. Who, being in very nature God, did not
consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; rather, he
made himself nothing by taking the very nature] of a servant, being made in
human likeness. And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by
becoming obedient to death even death on a cross! (Phil 2:6-8 NIV). God
becomes man not man becomes God.JS taught at one time taught(Kenosis)and
the(Hypostatic union) Christ's humanity and divinity in one hypostasis.
Thats about what I expected from Julianne Hough. Its the same line Katherine
Heigle gave so at least they acknowledge the good values they learned as teens.
Reid's comments suprised me. I am glad he is actively proclaiming his
@sjgfIgnored it!? There was even a week in April 2008 when Wright was
mentioned more often than Hillary Clinton... you know... the candidate that won
Pennsylvania that month and still had a near 50-50 shot of getting the
nomination at the time.
sjgf,The fact that we all know exactly what you mean by "his Muslim
roots" and "Rev Wright" pretty well puts the lie to your
position.The fact is that those issues were well explored but that a
significant fraction of the US population doesn't accept the truth (i.e.
Yes, President Obama grew up in a predominantly Islamic nation. No, he is not a
Muslim. Yes, he is a Christian. Yes, he was born in Hawaii, one of the fifty
United States of America). The same is proving to be true for Mr. Romney, some
people that have already made up their minds don't want to be bothered by
the facts (i.e. Yes, Mormons are believers in, and followers of, Jesus Christ,
the Son of God, the Savior of the World. No, Mormons are not perfect. Yes,
Mormons do strive to be what most consider to be "good people." Yes, he
is an U.S. citizen.).Apparently the jury is still out regarding whether
Mr. Romney is a unicorn or not. I'm finding it hard to keep an open mind
about that one (:>)
So once again as a group you're here as judge, jury and executioner. Ms.
Hough is pretty, interesting and seems to be from her public personal a really
nice person. That's more than I can say for most of you that sit at your
keyboard making accusations you know nothing about. Shame on you.
He who is without sin, let him cast the first.. Ouch!!
Well said MoJules & Pragmatic! How refreshing and, yes, uplifting to see
acceptance and tolerance of diversity and individual choices! Could there
actually be hope for a soul so rebellious and proud as mine? And to
UtahBlueDevil, thanks for your insight that perfection isn't a requirement
for membership. It actually IS in my ward, along with absolute conformity and
xenophobia, but it's nice to know that there still are places where Mormon
Culture isn't in direct conflict with the gospel of Jesus Christ.
@non believer:"They made Obama's religion fair game in
2008." Are you kidding? There would have been an absolute ton of flack about
both his Muslim roots and his association with Rev Wright, but the media and his
challengers largely decided to keep hands off the religion issue with him.There has already been much more attention to Romney's Mormon faith
in this election cycle than to Obama's various religious affiliations in
the 2008 cycle.Just saying -- "fair" to the one doesn't
come close to being "fair" to the other.
It's nobody's business to judge somebody's status in the Church.
Completely private matter between them and God. Having said that I think it is
wonderful that all these people gratefully acknowledge the blessings the Church
has provided in their respective life in unique ways. It is not anybody
elses' to judge. I know that is hard for many of you to do.
For all of you that are passing judgement on Julianne, you are far worse
Mormon's than she is. How is that beam filling in your eye about now?
I'm not really sure that we know exactly what Julianne's
"lifestyle" is. She says she's not as active as some members.
That doesn't mean she is not living the standards. We don't really
know for sure. She's gotten involved with some guys who are not members.
I think that's all we really know. I hope she gets back in full activity.
I am not sure being perfect is a requirement for being a member of the church,
nor a requirement to be able to speak as to what the faith means to you. I
think it is great to see that less than perfect people can be a members, talk
positively of the faith, despite the fact they they may have personal issues
that keep them from being what many judge to being an ideal member. I mean, I
can remember just a few pro-players in sports, the NFL in particular, who knew
that they career would require them to work on a very public stage, on Sundays.
So I am glad to see the great diversity in members, and how they
choose to practice their faith. Imperfections and all.
Julianne says she is not as active as others but she is pointing out the things
she learned from being a member growing up in The Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter Day Saints. I don't agree with her life style either but then I like
that she is not bad mouthing the church either.
I'm not sure what "heat" you are referring to. I've always
anxiously awaited questions about my faith so I can explain MYSELF what I
believe. I'm loving the "heat" as you call it. Even Julianne
Hough's obvious departure from some of the standards of behavior I think
are important have brought good opportunities to explain my beliefs to those who
question. So to your "you gotta take the heat" statement, I say,
Unfortunately you cannot have your cake and eat it too! So it is just as
acceptable to point out the faults and inconsistantcies of the religion.
It's all fair game when you are running for office. This entire
conversation is due to Mitt wanting to be President. If you do not like the
criticism, then one should not run for public office. They made Obama's
religion fair game in 2008 so now it's Mitt and the Mormon's time to
take the heat!
I am not sure if the DesNews just trolls websites for "Mormons" and then
says they are talking about Mormonism, but I am not sure Julianne Hough is the
best example of the values and standards of the church. She acknowledges not
"being active" in the church which for anyone who follows pop-culture
and Julianne in particular is a stretch. Her numerous flings with Hollywood
celebrities and in particular Ryan Seacrest, plus her new movie Rock of Ages is
not exactly the example I want set for my 6 year old daughter. She is a great
example, beautiful women, but not really living "The Strength of Youth"