Jay Dee, since when have I been a "fixture" on BYU articles? I very
rarely read or comment on BYU articles. I only do so when something interesting
is actually there and I have an honest, unbiased opinion on it. I have nothing
against BYU the school or the teams or a large majority of their athletes, in
fact I have several friends that either played or still play there. Several of
their fans can obviously get on the nerves, just like any fanbase, so they are
fun to jest with. So your apology for inaccurate inference is gladly accepted.
All this back and forth gets extremely old. Ute fans generally hate BYU, and BYU
fans generally hate the Utes. I for one, am sick and tired of this rivalry. it
has gotten so petty its not even worth it. Fans like ChrisB just drain the
happiness out of sports.
It would be terrific for the Cougars to make a little run in the NIT. This
sophomore-laden team could really use more time together to figure some things
out, such as consistency. Best of luck against likely opponent,
Tennessee.For my friend from Dixie... How many comments did you post
to the Seattle Times about this game? There's no suspicious motive here;
however, you are a fixture on BYU articles and known more for a red spin, not
purple and gold. I apologize if my inference based on your implications are
inaccurate.Reread my post carefully, please. The WWC gained
credibility with the addition of BYU. BYU has been in the top 1/3 of the
conference and raised the profile of the WCC nationally. But, my fandom
isn't tied to any team there other than BYU. And obviously, BYU is charting
their own course in football.Have a great weekend watching
basketball. Best wishes.
@ SportsFanMy comment assumes no such thing, and I do not hate BYU.
I'm sure BYU will be fine next season, but the cream of the crop in
BYU's recruiting class is coming from LP, and you know it. I don't
know why you are looking to be offended. Nice win last night.
"I wonder why that U fan is suddenly so interested in Washington
basketball."For one, I've always had a mild interest in the
Huskies since I used to live in Seattle. Second, I am a basketball fan. I
don't turn on games to just root for or against a team. Honestly, I
couldn't care less who wins a game between byu and uw, I just wanted to
watch basketball. So why so suspicious of my motives? And by the way, your
remark about claiming success of conference members' success goes both
ways, in fact I've noticed it much more from your own than from Utes fans.
Good win, thought BYU had the edge playing at home and it showed: 3 players with
20+ and no one else above 5 points. The question now is can Davis and Carlino
show up every night like Haws?
It was so nice to see the uptempo game that disappeared for most of the last
half of the regular season and the conference tournament game. If BYU can hold
on to the ball and get some help beyond Haws and Davies, then they are a good
team.Comments of a few posters are confusing me. One proclaims that
he is talking basketball not looking over your rival's shoulders smack. I
wonder why that U fan is suddenly so interested in Washington basketball.
Another says hypocritically that BYU fans are saddened over Stanford's win.
Again, why would any U fan care what BYU fans think about the Cardinal?The only explanation is that U are now living vicariously through conference
mates. I don't get how being in the bottom 1/4 of a conference gives you
any credibility. The only reason to bring up conference affiliation is if you
lend credibility to said conference. Do that first, then talk.It
seems akin to getting a D- in a class, but taking personal pride in the A's
of your fellow students.
With Kentucky, and Florida State gone, the possibilities are looking good.
2ferYour comment assumes that BYU's basketball success will be
on hold until ALL of the Lone Peak kids get to BYU. Adding Mika and returning
Kyle Collinsworth, to a team of Haws, Carlino, Sharp, Winder, and Calvert, along
with several other additions, will give BYU a VERY solid team NEXT season. Learn
to think outside your narrow BYU-hating box a little.
Nice win COUGS! Byu has now won 12 of 13 games against pac10.2 teams in the
last 4 years. But yet chris b and his friends think we could not compete against
their wonderful conference. No matter what conference BYU is in they are one of
the top programs in the West.
Wow, I never said anything negative about the Cougars, and already people
getting defensive? That's rich.skywalker, you don't think
the early success of N'Diaye had any effect on the Huskies 3-point shooting
opening up? And you don't think the pace of the game caused them to miss
shots at a tempo they weren't used to in the second? And you don't
think that tempo, the one at which BYU best operates, had anything to do with
their better success in shooting?Jay Dee, where in my posts did I
make any Chris B-esque "beloved Pac-12" talk? I was talking basketball,
not look over your shoulder at your rivals talk. You know, "civil
dialogue," "thoughtful comments." That's what the DesNews
encourages, but apparently not Cougar faithful.
For all of you petty BYU fans hoping that Stanford would lose tonight, sorry,
but they won.To those rational BYU fans who were big enough to
congratulate the U on their 2 great PAC 12 tourney wins last week, right back at
ya! Good win tonight.
@ mussingaroundI agree. Mika is ONE of the THREE. My comment
clearly said that Haws and Carlino will be gone before ALL three get there.
Learn to read.
Wow, that Pac 10.2 is sooooo good!
A couple of key things happened tonight. When BYU's shooting percentage is
is the mid-forties or above they usually win. Tonight was no exception, the
were right around 45. The other key stat was the low 30's percent shooting
in the first half. Not good and they were behind at half-time.It is
very nice to still be playing. Good luck to Weber tomorrow. Also to SLCC who
play tomorrow in round 2 of the NJCAA tournament. They are the only schools
still playing. Maybe Westminister also. Anyway nice to see them carry the
banner of the State.Final note, I was real disappointed to see the
comments of people living in Utah cheering for Washington. (With the exception
of C J Wilcox supporters, the non-support for a State school is very sad.I cheer for all State schools whenever possible. All people living in
the State should also.
2fer"Carlino and T. Haws will be gone before the three LP kids
all get there."Sorry to burst your bubble, but Eric Mika will be
playing for BYU next season.
StGtoSLC"In the first half, UW dictated the pace, passed the
ball well in the halfcourt (I believe assisted on 10/11 of their made baskets),
and worked N'Diaye on the smaller, weaker Davies."Nice try,
but here's what you really said."I think if BYU is able to
run their game like they want to and get the score up in the 80s, they probably
win a close one. If UW can slow it down, run their half court sets, and work the
ball inside, they'll probably win with the score in the 60s or 70s."Sorry, but it was Washington making 6-10 and BYU only making 2-12 from
3-point that gave the Huskies a slim 35-33 lead at the half. N'Diaye made 3
early shots in the paint in the first 5 minutes, but was held scoreless the
remainder of the half.BYU outscored the Huskies 7-3 in the first 2
minutes of the 2nd half to take a 40-39 lead that they never relinquished.
Washington's supposed 2nd half "defensive breakdown" was nothing
more than a reversal of 3-point shooting - BYU making 5-10 and Washington only
StGtoSLC,Dude, don't break your arm....and don't forget, it was
a double digit win by the Cougs. The better coach made the halftime adjustments.
Nice win, at the beginning of the second half it felt like it could go either
way and with the way the Cougs finished the season I was worried it would end in
a Y loss. Haws was great, Davies was consistent and Carlino played
the second half the way the Y needs him to in order to get a win.Extend the season as long as possible to gain experience and build more
chemistry. Next year is next year, lets enjoy this year for now.
Congratulations to the BYU cougars for getting there best win of the season by
beating the 8th best team in the PAC-12. Simply Amazing.
March 18Chris B - "Considering Washington is a top 100 RPI team
that does not bode well for byu."CougFaninTX - "Considering
U have marked down a loss for BYU, that bodes very well for BYU."The only thing better than beating Utah, is beating another team from the
PAC!PAC is 0 - 1 on day 1 of tourney and SF Austin Jr College is
giving Stanford all they can handle.
Still enough fire and desire to make it happen for a win. Keep it up guys!Congrats on the win!
@ ThomasJeffersonCarlino and T. Haws will be gone before the three
LP kids all get there.
Congratulations Cougars!Well played game...especially the strong
finish. Good luck on extending the season.@ STG2SLC via the little
red schoolhouse...Congratulations Nostradamus! Impressive
Prediction!And yet one of the beloved PAC 12 flag bearers is gone
from the NIT. How sad for U fans who have more to cheer from mere
conference affiliation than ANYTHING they have yet to actually accomplish
by themselves. Enjoy the couch...change the cushions before September.BTW Chris B. The best (most meaningful i.e. postseason/post-conference
tourney) win in the state belongs to BYU. You can drop that mantra now. Based on
yoUr season, it was a stretch anyway.
Chris B - Still happy with YOUR pac 10.2 membership?? How did you
like them apples?? Did you watch to the bitter end, or did you pack it in with 2
minutes to go? At least the chips and salsa were tasty I bet.BYU put
up 90 v. PacBYU put up 59 in 2nd half v. PacHaws put up 37 v. PacDavies & Carlino both hot.Zilstra slammed one home.Overall - not a bad game by the Cougars. PS - Stanford (Pac 12) in
trouble with Stephen F. AustinSaint Mary's (WCC) advances to 2nd
Wow, BYU actually looked better in the 2nd half than the first, that has been
rare this season! Hope they can keep it up!
Looks like I called the game to a tee yesterday. In the first half, UW dictated
the pace, passed the ball well in the halfcourt (I believe assisted on 10/11 of
their made baskets), and worked N'Diaye on the smaller, weaker Davies. Haws
got his points, but they made it difficult on him, and won the first half at a
pace to finish in the 70 point range.In the second half, BYU did do
a good job of asserting themselves into the game they wanted to play, but it
looked more like a defensive breakdown by UW that led to it. They let up on the
ball denial on Haws, and he got quick, easy baskets because of it. It caused
them to speed their game up, which led to turnovers, and eventually getting down
too much to get back in it in the end, although they stayed competitive. The
game got up into the 80 point range and BYU won it after taking control in the
last couple minutes.Also as I predicted, Andrew Andrews put his
youth, athleticism and talent on display pretty well.
Chris B, I went and "marked it down" like you said. How is that
possible for a WCC team to beat a PAC team in a basketball tournament?
I like second half Carlino... had he been around for 2nd half of the season
we'd be dancing right now. Hopefully the Cougs can make a deep run in the
NIT. Go Cougs!
BYU dominated UW from the Pac12!