@Mountanman"please name ONE piece of LEGISLISLATION Obama wanted that
the GOP has blocked! "Every single jobs bill he's discussed
during the state of the union speeches since the GOP took the House. Pretty much
every thing he's ever said "Pass this bill" about.
"Can you name ONE thing the GOP has stopped Obama from doing?"@MountanmanThe GOP has blocked 79 judicial appointees during
Obama's administration. For reference, the sum total of blocked judicial
appointees for all presidents prior to Obama is 68.One
president's administration has had more appointees blocked by the GOP than
all previous presidential administrations combined! Does that count as
'ONE thing the GOP has stopped Obama from doing' or does it count as
Even if done out of publicity, I approve. Jason opposes many of the attempts to
preserve more of Utah lands. When these out-of-state politicians see the scenic,
spectacular, pristine, otherworldly landscapes in Utah, they will be even more
supportive of expanding protection of these lands.
Has anyone put a calculator to the cost of this little get together? I mean, it
is just not to congressman getting in a boat for a get to know each other's
world picnic. It is staffers and security and maybe the wife and family dog. So
what would that be in terms of cash? Are we talking a hundred thousand or less?
I could use a day out in a boat with staffers to improve my touchy
I love the concept of this editorial but having met with Chaffetz and his staff
several times I have to agree with Rufus.
@Esquire,And Mr Cummings hasn't done those same things? I think both
are trying to get through the walls put up by the hyper-partisan hyperbole, and
stop with the political theater found in the chambers of Congress. Let's
give both of them some credit for at least doing these exchanges and hopefully
more in the future to work toward the common good.@FTFrom the
article, it says that the local county commissioners were invited to
share.....the local elected officials whose job it is. I am guessing that you
don't live down there and you aren't an elected official so you
weren't in on those conversations. So, write your Congressman to complain.
It's your right to complain, but there is no guarantee that your view will
@mountainman. You just said to rufus that the president can not introduce
legislation and then you state he doubled the national debt. How can some one
who does not control the purse strings double the debt?Also food
stamps and welfare type programs are suppose to be at their highest usage during
recessions. That is how the programs are suppose to work. Their usage will go
down as the economy improves.The GOP has blocked a minimum wage
increase, The Paycheck Fairness Act, the buffet rule,The Small Business Jobs
Act, Political Ad disclosure bill and a ton more. I am not claiming all these
bills were good but to say that the president has not been stonewalled by the
GOP is ludicrous.
I guess we could have an economy based on barristas and barflys, or we could
actually make stuff. These are family-wage jobs here, not the servers and sales
clerks the Dems apparently think we should all be. If we can't dig in the
dirt in the middle of a desert no one wants to live in, where can we? And if
these Imperial Senators can't be bothered to see the effects of their
meddling, I guess we know for sure they only care about people living with 50
miles of a coastline. Utah is NOT a giant amusement park meant solely for Libs
to vacation in and leave. It's our home and we will care for it, we will be
good stewards, but we will also utilize our own natural resources for the
betterment of our people.
No Rufus you have it wrong. The president does not introduce bills to either the
Senate or the House. He may suggest legislation but he does not introduce (as
you said) any legislation, period. So, I ask again, please name ONE piece of
LEGISLISLATION Obama wanted that the GOP has blocked! Obamacare with all its
illegal changes, higher taxes, the "stimulus", the bailouts destruction
of the DOMA, NSA, doubled the number of food stamp recipients and doubled down
on he national debt, all his appointment nominees, all without any blockage from
the GOP. Harry Reid, now there is a real blocker including immigration reform
from the House!
@Esquire,The "GOP" are not the only people who are more extreme
than they were back when Orin Hatch and Tedd Kennedy could work together on
Healthcare Legislation. BOTH sides have become more extreme since then. I
hope you can still see that. Some people are too far gone to see any faults on
THEIR side of the isle.... I hope you're not one of them.
@ 2 bits, and Hatch was absolutely correct to form a friendship with Kennedy.
The results were really good, but that was back when the GOP wasn't so
@ Irony guyThe majority of Utahns are encouraged to write and reach out to
Congressman Cummings and let them know they do not support the minority of
voices he heard on his recent trip to Utah. Congressman Chaffetz knows who
butters his bread and we the people were not invited to talk with his visitor,
only those few with their hands in the cookie jar were.
Hatch tried this with Tedd Kennedy way back when... and almost lost his job for
riverofsunSt.George, UTAnyone else anxiously awaiting next week to
see what Jason Chaffetz will do to get media attention?10:01 a.m.
Aug. 6, 2014========= Any bets for "Dancing With the
I like these kinds of visits and exchanges. But they won't do any good if
Chaffetz continues to be outrageous, incendiary, and hyper-partisan. Let's
see what happens from here. Folks, comity, moderation and compromise is the way
to go. It's the only way to get things done. The GOP has forgotten this
Chaffetz collected only the red-meat rightwing Utah voices for Cummings to
listen to. Where were the voices in favor of environmental protection? Where
were the voices who don't want Utah's beautiful public lands
privatized and pillaged? I fear Cummings will go away misled that we Utahns are
monolithic in our views. We are NOT.
Rufus T. Firefly, "... they treat him like a leper. I wonder why?"The answer to that question comes in a statement made by Alabama
Conngressman Mo Brooks statement complaining about an editorial in the Wall
Street Journal that called the immigration hardliners the "GOP Deportation
Caucus." Congressman Brooks said in a radio interview:“This is a part of the war on whites that’s being launched by the
Democratic Party. And the way in which they’re launching this war is by
claiming that whites hate everybody else. It’s a part of the strategy that
Barack Obama implemented in 2008, continued in 2012..."It has
come to that with the Republicans. They're now claiming to be victims of
Anyone else anxiously awaiting next week to see what Jason Chaffetz will do to
get media attention?
Yes, I'm sure this exchange resulted in an epiphany for Congressman
Chaffetz. He is now much more empathetic to the plight of the urban poor he
visited in Baltimore now. Right.
@ Rufus. Can you name ONE thing the GOP has stopped Obama from doing? Just name
one thing, please!
Congressional 'exchange visits' can lift, enlighten========= Of course is can.It's called - Sharing,
Understanding, and it always leads to COMPROMISING.Speaking of
which, Thanks Jason Chaffetz...I hope this little field-trip,
I hope that Rep. Elijah Cummings will be on board with other Senators and
President Obama to expand the protection of the areas he just visited.
Kudos to both Congressmen for setting the right standard for others to follow.
Anything that will douse the flames of partisanship and get our Congress back in
the business of serving the people that elected them is a good thing. In the
best sense, no one will get everything they want but also in that same best
sense, the country, as a whole will benefit. Give and take is the key and
walking a mile in another man's shoes is the best way to understand where
he is coming from. From their words, both men learned that lesson well. Now is
the time to see if their actions match their words. Let's hope for the